Calculating Impulse on a Baseball Colliding with a Bat: Magnitude and Duration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the impulse on a baseball during its collision with a bat. The baseball has a mass of 0.300 kg, an initial velocity of 12.0 m/s at a 35° angle, and a final velocity of 10.0 m/s directly upward, with a collision duration of 1.5 ms. Participants clarify the calculations for initial and final momentum, noting the importance of vector direction, particularly the negative y-component of the incoming ball's momentum. The correct impulse magnitude is derived from the vector difference of initial and final momentum, emphasizing the need to consider direction before calculating the magnitude.
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A 0.300 kg baseball just before and after it collides with a bat. Just before, the ball has a velocity v1 of magnitude 12.0 m/s and angle θ1 = 35°. Just after, it is traveling directly upward with velocity v2 of magnitude 10.0 m/s. The duration of the collision is 1.5 ms.
(a) What is the magnitude of the impulse on the ball from the bat?

I tried solving a by

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(12)j = 3.6j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.66j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.66²) = 6.38

what am i doing wrong?
 

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noname1 said:
A 0.300 kg baseball just before and after it collides with a bat. Just before, the ball has a velocity v1 of magnitude 12.0 m/s and angle θ1 = 35°. Just after, it is traveling directly upward with velocity v2 of magnitude 10.0 m/s. The duration of the collision is 1.5 ms.
(a) What is the magnitude of the impulse on the ball from the bat?

I tried solving a by

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(12)j = 3.6j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.66j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.66²) = 6.38

what am i doing wrong?

Would the delta-time be part of the relevant equations...?
 
pf should be 10 and not 12 right? shoot, how could i miss that, just want to be sure because i just have one more attempt

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86correct?
 
noname1 said:
pf should be 10 and not 12 right? shoot, how could i miss that, just want to be sure because i just have one more attempt

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86


correct?

You didn't answer my question. Where should the 1.5ms enter into your calculation of the impulse?
 
i don't think it shouldn't enter because

p = mass vs velocity

pf = 0.3 x 10 = 3j
pi = .3 x 12(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

right?
 
noname1 said:
i don't think it shouldn't enter because

p = mass vs velocity

pf = 0.3 x 10 = 3j
pi = .3 x 12(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

right?

My apologies. I was misremembering the definition of Impulse.

It looks like you just have a sign error in the y component of the incoming ball's momentum:

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j

The diagram in your original post (OP) shows the ball coming in at a downward angle.
 
yes you are correct but anyways its not going to affect the answer since we take the absolute value of it, but something and i think this is correct

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86but just want to verify since its my last attempt to the question
 
noname1 said:
yes you are correct but anyways its not going to affect the answer since we take the absolute value of it, but something and i think this is correct

pi = (.3)(12)(cos215i+sin215j) = -2.95i + 2.06j
pf = (.3)(10)j = 3j
i = pf - pi = 3j - (-2.95i - 2.06j) = 2.95i +5.06j

mag = sqrt(2.95²+5.06²) = 5.86


but just want to verify since its my last attempt to the question

You do not take any absolute values or do sqrt(squares) magnitude calculation until after you have subtracted the vectors. So the direction of the y component of the incoming baseball (negative) is important, since the final direction is upward (positive).
 
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