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The discussion revolves around a proposed hypothesis regarding a hypothetical particle called "?tron," which the original poster suggests could explain aspects of gravity, magnetism, and atomic structure. The scope includes theoretical concepts and speculative models related to fundamental physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster introduces the "?tron" hypothesis, suggesting it is a charged particle that could fill space and interact with atomic structures.
  • It is proposed that ?trons could be attracted to nuclei and repelled by electrons, forming distinct layers around atoms.
  • The model describes hydrogen as having two ?tron balls, one around the nucleus and one around the electron, leading to a dipole formation.
  • For heavier atoms, the model suggests denser nuclei with multiple layers of electron balls.
  • The poster theorizes that magnetic fields arise from the interactions of these ?tron layers, with specific force strengths defined by their densities.
  • Some participants draw parallels between the ?tron hypothesis and concepts like dark matter or antimatter, indicating a speculative nature of the ideas presented.
  • One participant asserts that antimatter is not hypothetical, noting its experimental detection, while another reiterates the hypothetical nature of dark matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the concepts discussed, particularly regarding the status of antimatter and its existence. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the validity of the proposed hypothesis.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative ideas that lack empirical support and relies on unconventional interpretations of physical phenomena. The definitions and implications of the proposed ?tron concept remain unclear and may depend on further elaboration.

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Hi Everyone,

Please give some help on an idea of mine, I am a drop out from physics and have poor math skill.

?tron hypothesis

I thought, maybe there is a charged tiny thing exist and fill up the space (like ether). it is too small so we can not detect its mass/charge yet or it has no mass but only charge. Suppose it really exist and carry negative charge and its strength is like e/10^100 (let's call it ?tron).

Then, we can image ?trons attracted by nuclea and form a densed ball around it. And mean time ?trons repelled by electron and form an empty/loose ball around it. Because the nuclea and electron attracts each other, the two balls (one densed and one loosed ?tron ball) will attract each other and form atom. The rest of the space is still fill up with ?tron and its ?tron density is in between the two kind of balls.

In a light atom model, like H, we see two ?tron balls, one is the nuclea with densed ?trons around it, the other one is empty/loosed ?trons around electron. (kind of like an Earth sized beach ball float on Earth sized ocean. The ocean is the nuclea ball and the beach ball is the electron ball)

The H atom act as an dipole, has to marry another H to form H2 to be stable.

For a heavier atom model, like carbon, we see a denser nuclea ball with 6 electron balls around it.

In a very heavy atom, we see very densed nuclea ball with more layers of electron balls around it.

All the balls in all matters, act each other by electro force.

A magnet's structure is like many layers of atoms partially polarized, one direction is nuclear concentrated and the other direction is electron concentrated.

The electron concentrated plate (south pole) repells near by ?trons and form an empty/loose ?tron layer in space. This empty/loose layer will induce ?trons in the near by space to form a dense ?tron layer and so on so on. The dense/loose ?tron layers will attract each other to form magnetic field. The force strength is defined by the density of the ?tron in the field (1/R^3).

The nuclea concentrated plate (north pole) attracts ?tron and form a densed ?tron layer, it induce near by ?trons to form an empty/loose layer, the two layers attract each other and keep forming magnetic field.

Somehow, between matter/mass and matter, even the + - electrical charges are equal, it's net force is a weak attraction. The strength is defined by total charge (proportional to total mass) / R^2.

This is my best guase/explanation for gravity, magnetism and atom model.

Sorry about my poor English, be highly appreciate any comment/teaching/feedback.

Thanks ahead!
 
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Sort of sounds like the controversial "dark matter" or "antimatter" which are hypothetical.
 
Anti-matter isn't hypothetical.
 
binzing said:
Sort of sounds like the controversial "dark matter" or "antimatter" which are hypothetical.

Antimatter actually exists. It has been experimentally detected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter
 

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