Help How to understand classical Fermion field from anticommuting relations?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the classical correspondence of fermion fields, particularly in the context of anticommuting relations and Grassmann spinor fields. Participants explore the implications of these relations on interaction terms like (\bar{\psi} \psi)^n, questioning how such terms can exist when identical fields may yield zero at the same spacetime point.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the anticommuting relations for quantum Dirac fields lead to a classical correspondence involving Grassmann spinor fields, raising questions about the validity of terms like (\bar{\psi} \psi)^n.
  • Another participant asserts that (\bar{\psi}\psi) is a real number and that raising a real number to an integer power results in another real number, implying that the expression remains valid.
  • It is noted multiple times that (\bar{\psi}\psi)^{n} is not equal to \bar{\psi}^{n}\psi^{n}, indicating a potential misunderstanding or miscommunication regarding the properties of these expressions.
  • A participant questions the popularity of the notation used, specifically the format of writing equations in LaTeX.
  • Another participant explains that while \bar{\psi}\psi is an operator under quantization, it is simply a real number classically, and provides a component form example to illustrate how Grassmann fields may lead to zero contributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of Grassmann fields and the validity of certain expressions, with no consensus reached on the interpretation of the interaction terms or the consequences of anticommuting relations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the classical correspondence of quantum operators and the specific conditions under which certain terms may yield zero. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of mathematical expressions and their physical implications.

sclzn
Since we have anticommuting relations for the quantum Dirac fields, this
will bring us to the similar classical correspondance but result in Grassmann
spinor field function instead. (such as path integral)

So when we consider an arbitrary interaction term that like (\bar{\psi} \psi)^n, if the field is really a Grassmann field, then it may be zero when two identical fields meet (at same spacetime point). So why such a term can still be possible?

thanks for clarify this concept.
 
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\bar{\psi}\psi is a real number and raising a real number to an integer power gives another real number.

Also, (\bar{\psi}\psi)^{n} \not= \bar{\psi}^{n}\psi^{n}
 
(\bar{\psi}\psi)^{n} \not= \bar{\psi}^{n}\psi^{n}
 
"(\bar{\psi}\psi)^{n} \not= \bar{\psi}^{n}\psi^{n}"
Is this writing formate popular in The West?
 
It's Latex, the standard format that most maths and physics papers (and even many books) are written in. Gives for nice looking equations and easy to read articles. A damn sight better than the equation editor that comes with Microsoft Word.
 
To AlphaNumeric :

\bar{\psi}\psi is an operator under quantization, classically there
won't be a problem, it is just a real number. But when you consider its classical
correspondence from quantization, or you can write
it in component form, such as
{(\bar{\psi}\psi)^2}
can be written as \bar{\psi}_1\psi_1\bar{\psi}_1\psi_1 in component form(which is one component of this term, 1 is a component index). So when you consider Grassmann field function this component would be zero.
 
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