Help on Permuntation and Combination Question

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The discussion revolves around a permutation and combination problem involving dividing a group into two taxis after a show, with the condition that George and Sally must be in the same taxi. The initial calculation yielded an incorrect answer of 160, while the correct solution is 56. The key to solving the problem lies in recognizing that combinations, not permutations, should be used since the order of selection does not matter. The correct approach involves calculating the number of ways to select the remaining passengers after placing George and Sally in one of the taxis. The final consensus confirms that the answer is indeed 56, emphasizing the importance of understanding the difference between permutations and combinations.
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[SOLVED] Help on Permuntation and Combination Question

Homework Statement



After a show ,they decided to divide into two groups of size four and five, to go for a supper in 2 taxis. In how many ways could this be done if george and sally were to be in the same taxi

Homework Equations


nCn
nPc


The Attempt at a Solution



No of ways = (3p3 x 2! + 4p4)+(2p2 x 2! + 5p5) = 160

But answer is 56. How do u get the answer it is so small
 
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Taxi A and B have capacities 4,5 resp.

They both (George, Sally) can be either in Taxi A or B. If they're in taxi A, how many more people do you have to select from 7 remaining and in how many ways? And in the second case (taxi B), how many more do you need from 7? Add them up to get your answer.

You need to find the number of ways of selecting 2 and 3 people from 7. Can you see why? Also, the order in which you select the 2 or 3 doesn't matter. Also, the remaining people would occupy the second taxi. So you only need to consider the taxi in which Sally, George are sitting.

The answer indeed is 56.

Regards,
Sleek.
 
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OK Thanks so it was C instead of P. Question solved
 
fluffy91 said:
OK Thanks so it was C instead of P. Question solved

That doesn't sound like you really understand the situation, rather that you learn to insert things into equations :( To distinguish between a Permutation and a Combination, consider if order matters. For the taxis, it doesn't because if ABC get into 1 taxi, its the same as BAC etc etc.
 
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