Deriving Formulas for Work/Energy Problems

  • Thread starter Thread starter CL1349
  • Start date Start date
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum height an ice cube reaches after being pushed down an incline with an initial speed of 7 m/s. Using the work-energy principle, the initial kinetic energy and potential energy are set equal to the final potential energy at the peak height. The calculations involve setting the initial kinetic energy (1/2 mv^2) and potential energy (mgh) equal to the final potential energy (mgH) when the cube's speed is zero. The final result indicates that the height H the ice cube reaches is approximately 6.5 meters. This approach emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the work-energy theorem in solving physics problems.
CL1349
Messages
6
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



An ice cube is given a push at the top of an incline giving it an initial speed of 7 m/s down the incline. At the bottom of the incline the ice cube is deflected vertically upward as shown in the accompanying diagram. Ignoring friction and air resistance, how high H does the ice cube go above the floor before falling back down?

Note: Solve using work/energy considerations

The problem with a graph of it is attached.

Homework Equations



W = Ef - Ei

Ef = Ei



The Attempt at a Solution



I set the work equal to zero, and set the initial energy equal to the final energy. I worked the equation around and came up with

mgh = 1/2 mv^2 + mgh

mg(4m) = 1/2 m (Vf) ^2 + mg( 0 m)

I solved for final velocity with Vf = square root( 2gh), square root (2 * 9.8 m/s2 * 4 m)

I got 8.85 m/s for final velocity. I don't know if this is right or not. But how can I rearrange the work/energy theorem to find the H?
 

Attachments

Physics news on Phys.org
You're making it too difficult. The sum of the initial potential energy (mgh) and the initial kinetic energy (mv^2) is equal to the final potential energy (mgH) when the ice cube reaches its highest point. (Keep in mind that the ice cube's speed and kinetic energy are zero at that point.) You never have to worry about the ice cube's speed after it's released.
 
Thanks for the help obafgkmrns. You really made me see how I can easily get confused on such a simple thing.

It's hard for me to figure out how to analyze problems like this and derive the right formulas cause I'm not that great at physics. And it doesn't help that my professor is a bit looney.

So, here's my attempt at the solution.

Initial PE + KE = Final PE + KE

the initial KE = 1/2 mv^2.

1/2 * m * (7 m/s) ^2

= 24.5 m

The initial PE = mgh

m * 9.8 * 4 m

= 39.2 m

63.7 m = mgh + 1/2 mv^2 , v = 0


h = 63.7m/mg

h = 63.7/9.8

h = 6.5 meters
 
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
Back
Top