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The discussion revolves around simplifying a double integral involving the expression ∫{ (2y²)(√(2+y²)) - (2y²)(√(2y²)) } dy. The original poster has completed the x integration and is seeking assistance with the simplification of the resulting integrand.

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the square root in the integrand, clarifying whether it applies to both terms or just part of them. There are attempts to split the integral into two parts and explore potential substitutions for further simplification.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into possible methods for simplification, including hyperbolic and trigonometric substitutions. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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The original poster also raises a separate question about drawing the region of integration for another integral, indicating a broader context of understanding integrals and their geometric interpretations.

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Simplifying help please!

Hi, I was given a double integral question and I managed to do the x integration. After placing the limits I get the following:

∫{ (2y²)(√2+y²) - (2y²)(√2y²) } dy

I know the integrand can be simplified but I don't have a clue. Can anyone help? :confused: Thank you!
 
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Is the first square root supposed to cover both 2 and y^2 or is it the square root of 2, plus y^2 (outside the root)?
 
oops sorry! Yes the square root is suppose to cover all of 2+y²
 
In that case I'm guessing it's the same for the second square root term..
So you have:
∫{ (2y²)√(2+y²) - (2y²)√(2y²) } dy
Splitting it up into two integrals...
∫(2y²)√(2+y²) dy - ∫(2y²)√(2y²) dy
On the right side, you can pull the y^2 out of the square root:
∫(2y²)√(2+y²) dy - ∫(2y²)y√(2) dy
And then:
∫(2y²)√(2+y²) dy - 2√2 ∫y^3 dy
= ∫(2y²)√(2+y²) dy - (y^4)/(√2) + C
Now, for the left integral it'll take a bit more work... let's try a hyperbolic substitution:
sinh^2 x - cosh^2 x = 1
sinh^2 x = 1 + cosh^2 x
So, let's say y = √2 * cosh x
dy = √2 * sinh x dx; from there:
∫(2y²)√(2+y²) dy - (y^4)/(√2) + C
= ∫(2(2cosh²x))√(2)*sinh x * √2 sinh x dx - (y^4)/(√2) + C
= 8∫cosh² x sinh² x dx - (y^4)/(√2) + C
And you can proceed from there.. :\ Or you could have used a trig substitution...
 
ooo ok thanks!

I've also got another quick question. I've been asked to draw the region of integration for the following integral. I'm not sure if I've drawn it right :confused: can someone help? thank you!

http://tinypic.com/i53khk.jpg"
 
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