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The discussion revolves around an integration problem involving the expression \(\int\frac{x+1}{x^2+2x}\). Participants are exploring methods for solving this integral, particularly focusing on partial fraction decomposition and substitution techniques.

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  • Some participants suggest using partial fraction integration, while others propose u-substitution as an alternative method. There is uncertainty regarding the best approach to take, and one participant expresses a desire to learn simpler methods for solving such problems.

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Participants are sharing different methods and insights, with some providing guidance on how to approach the integral. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, and while no consensus has been reached, several viable approaches have been discussed.

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One participant notes a potential gap in knowledge regarding u-substitution, indicating that the discussion may be influenced by varying levels of familiarity with integration techniques.

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[tex]\int\frac{x+1}{x^2+2x}[/tex]

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I'm not sure what method to use. Thank you.
 
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You have to use partial fraction integration which involves splitting the integral into terms that are easier to integrate. After pulling an "x" from the bottom of the original integral you get INT (x+1)/x(x+2)

After splitting and such:

x + 1 = A(x+2) + Bx

Plugging in clever values for x we will get that A & B both equal 1/2

Substituting back into our original problem we will have the INT of .5/x + .5/(x+2) which will yield an answer of 0.5 ln|x| + 0.5 ln|x+2|

I'm assuming you know how to use partial fraction integration. If not, respond back and i'll try helping you further.

Hope that helps!
 


Try taking the derivative of the denominator :wink:
 


IntegrateMe's answer is the same as what you would get if following my advice. By the way, that method is unnecessarily complicated :-p
 


Haha, Mentallic, i don't really know any other way to do it.

Can you please explain a simpler way, i'd like to know how to solve these problems quicker!
 


You've been taught partial fractions but not u-substitution?

In any case, let u=x2+2x

Then du/dx=2x+2 and du=2(x+1)dx

Substitute u and du back into the integral accordingly - remember that there is no 2 in the integral so you'll need to make it du/2=(x+1)dx. Now it's simple to integrate (and don't forget to substitute u=x2+2x back into your answer!)
 


^_^

It's strange having an "x" in your "u-value" but i guess that way is easier. Thanks :)
 


Thank you very much!
 

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