Help with sigma notation where the top value is x?

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The problem involves evaluating a summation expressed in sigma notation, where the upper limit is an integer variable \( x \) constrained between -6 and 6. The equation presented is the sum of \( 2i \) from \( i = 1 \) to \( x \), equating to 12.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the summation and the implications of \( x \) being an integer. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of the summation and its limits, with some participants expressing confusion about the notation and the problem's requirements.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the summation and questioning the assumptions about the variable \( x \). Some guidance has been offered regarding the notation, but there is no clear consensus on the approach to take or the solution to pursue.

Contextual Notes

There are constraints regarding the range of \( x \), and participants are considering how to handle the summation for both positive and negative values of \( x \). The original poster's attempts at a solution are noted, but further clarification is needed on the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



In each case, x is an integer between -6 and 6 inclusive.

Homework Equations



x
Σ 2i =12
i=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2x1 = 12 + 2x2 = 12 +...+2x(x) = 12
 
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I surmise you to be saying x is an integer and lies somewhere between -6 and +6. Correct?

So I'd read it as the sum of all terms, 2*i
for all integer values i starting from 1 and stepping through to x
but stopping when that sum equals 12.

Sure, you don't initially know the value of x, but it's the only unknown in the puzzle, so you can discover what value it must have, readily enough.

BTW, it is not a good idea to use the character 'x' for both multiplication and the unknown in the same line! There are plenty of alternatives to choose from. 2(1) + 2(2) + ...
is as good as any. But if you can find a typeface with a large dot that sits well above where decimal points get positioned, then (preferably where there are no decimal points) you can use that large dot to denote multiplication. Or on the web, you can simply use an
asterisk.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
I surmise you to be saying x is an integer and lies somewhere between -6 and +6. Correct?

So I'd read it as the sum of all terms, 2*i
for all integer values i starting from 1 and stepping through to x
but stopping when that sum equals 12.

hmm? i genuinely have no idea of what you said..
 
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rkell48 said:

Homework Statement



In each case, x is an integer between -6 and 6 inclusive.

Homework Equations



x
Σ 2i =12
i=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2x1 = 12 + 2x2 = 12 +...+2x(x) = 12

When x = 0 we are summing 2*i for i from 1 to zero, so get 2*1 + 2*0 = 2.
When x = 4 we are summing 2*i for i from 1 to 4, so we get 2*1 + 2*2 + 2*3 + 2*4 = 20, etc. When x = -5 we are summing 2*i for i going from 1 to -5, so we get 2*1 + 2*0 + 2*(-1) + 2*(-2) + 2*(-3) + 2*(-4) + 2*(-5). So, for any integer x between -6 and 6 you can do the sum, and you want to find out which x (if any) leads to a sum = 12. You could do it by a brute-force approach, trying every x, but there are quicker ways. However, the first step is to understand what the question is asking.

RGV
 

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