Help with Vector Addition Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a vector addition problem, where participants are analyzing the calculation of angles resulting from vector components. The original poster seeks clarification on their angle calculation, particularly regarding the interpretation of a -10° angle and its conversion to a positive angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of calculating angles using tangent and question the validity of the original poster's calculations. There are inquiries about the reference point for the -10° angle and suggestions to visualize the problem with diagrams.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the angle calculations being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on redrawing diagrams and checking calculations, while others express confusion about the original poster's approach and results.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing calculations and assumptions regarding the coordinate system used in the problem. The original poster's final y-coordinate is questioned, as it appears inconsistent with the expected quadrant based on the vector setup.

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Homework Statement


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https://gyazo.com/6348b5ffe368852ee9868a2ba0dd7e38

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


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Where did I go wrong with the angle calculation?

Thanks
 
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I don't know, you didn't show the Calc.
 
paisiello2 said:
I don't know, you didn't show the Calc.
https://gyazo.com/efc009de2080feedea420d6b2a5edab4

Triangle on the right shows how I calculated -10° angle by using tan-1(-3.2/17.4), -3.2 being the change in y and 17.4 change in x after I added the vectors.
 
Can't follow your work. Your original post gives the answer as 350. How did you come up with this number?
 
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paisiello2 said:
Can't follow your work. Your original post gives the answer as 350. How v did you come up with this number?
I calculated the angle as -10°, but since the question asked for the angle counter-clockwise from the x axis, I thought it would be correctly expressed as 350.
 
-10 degrees measured from what?
 
paisiello2 said:
-10 degrees measured from what?
From the positive x axis.
 
Okay where did you get the -10 degrees from?

You can find the coordinate of the player's position through your vectors. After that you can simply use geometry to determine the ccw angle, after that, 360 - positive angle = clockwise angle. The program may not want to accept negative angles, try the positive equivalent between 0 and 360.
 
Feodalherren said:
Okay where did you get the -10 degrees from?

You can find the coordinate of the player's position through your vectors. After that you can simply use geometry to determine the ccw angle, after that, 360 - positive angle = clockwise angle. The program may not want to accept negative angles, try the positive equivalent between 0 and 360.

https://gyazo.com/efc009de2080feedea420d6b2a5edab4

Triangle on the right shows how I calculated -10° angle by using tan-1(-3.2/17.4), -3.2 being the change in y and 17.4 change in x after I added the vectors.
 
  • #10
Josh Eiland said:
https://gyazo.com/efc009de2080feedea420d6b2a5edab4

Triangle on the right shows how I calculated -10° angle by using tan-1(-3.2/17.4), -3.2 being the change in y and 17.4 change in x after I added the vectors.

And yes, that's how I got 350° counter-clockwise. By doing 360 minus the clockwise angle (360-10).
 
  • #11
Josh Eiland said:
From the positive x axis.

I think if you draw yourself a picture you will see that it can't be -10 degrees from the +ve x-axis.
 
  • #12
paisiello2 said:
I think if you draw yourself a picture you will see that it can't be -10 degrees from the +ve x-axis.
I got -10 from the X-axis counter-clockwise when drawing a picture, as I've explained. Do you have a better answer or suggestion?
 
  • #13
I could not understand your drawings. So my suggestion is to redraw a simple picture that summarizes the vectors and shows the -10 degrees.
 
  • #14
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From this image, find the vector P.
 
  • #15
Feodalherren said:
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From this image, find the vector P.
That wouldn't make sense, as the angle from initial to final points would be from the top of the red line on the y-axis to the final spot, not from the origin.
 
  • #16
paisiello2 said:
I could not understand your drawings. So my suggestion is to redraw a simple picture that summarizes the vectors and shows the -10 degrees.
I calculated the final point (17.4, -3.2) and drew a line from the origin (0,0) to this point, creating a triangle with the x and y segments. Using Pythagorean theorem I calculated the magnitude of this vector 17.7
I then used inverse tangent to find the angle -10°
 
  • #17
Ok, I follow you now. I think you got it right. Maybe a small rounding error. Try and see if 349.6 works.
 
  • #18
paisiello2 said:
Ok, I follow you now. I think you got it right. Maybe a small rounding error. Try and see if 349.6 works.
Tried it, didn't work. I think the teacher probably just put the answer in wrong accidentally. Will ask tomorrow. Thanks for help.
 
  • #19
That is not the answer that I am getting at all.

I am getting a positive angle of 24.213 degrees counter-clockwise.

Again, if you're not showing your calculations it's impossible for us to tell you where you're going wrong.

Your y-coordinate is wrong. The point is in the first quadrant.

Bx=11.3137
By=11.3137
Cx=6.0622
Cy=3.5

Therefore the resultant vector is
r=[Bx+Cx,By-Cy]
 
  • #20
I got the same answer as the OP.
 
  • #21
OP calculated his final Y-coordinate as a negative, it doesn't make sense from the given picture assuming that the Y-axis goes along vector A and the X-axis goes through the bottom corner.
 

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