Calculating Moment: Addition of Torque Components

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment (torque) from force components in a physics problem. Participants are exploring the relationship between torque, force vectors, and lever arms, particularly focusing on the addition of torque components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate torque components using trigonometric functions but questions the validity of their method since they obtained the correct answer through direct addition rather than vector addition. Some participants discuss the definition of torque as a cross product and its directional implications.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications on the nature of torque and its calculation. There is a recognition of differing methods and interpretations, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's confusion.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the units and the correctness of their approach, indicating potential constraints in understanding the problem setup. There is also mention of specific options for answers, which may influence the discussion.

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Homework Statement
In order to pull out the nail at B, as shown in the figure, the force F exerted on the handle of the hammer must produce a clockwise moment of 500 lb-in about point A. Determine the required magnitude of force F.
Relevant Equations
##T=F\times l##
First of all, sorry for the units. This is a problem I found on the internet and am confused about the solution.

I calculated the two components of the moment (torque) to be

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##T_x = 18\times Fcos(30)## and ##T_y=5\times Fsin(30)##

The problem is, I got the proper answer (the two options were 27.64 lb and 55.28 lb) by direct addition of the two components but did not get it by vector addition (for magnitude).

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I am not sure how I got the correct answer using a seemingly incorrect method.
 
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The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?
 
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Solution #1 is correct because both components of F (x and y) are perpendicular to the lever of each respect to the point A, where the moment said to be applied.
Solution #2 is incorrect because you are mixing torque with your effort to determine F from its x and y components.
 
haruspex said:
The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?

Got it. Both of the them are pointing in the same direction, so it should be added normally. Thanks!
 

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