Calculating Moment: Addition of Torque Components

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving calculating torque and finding the correct answer through direct addition of the two components instead of vector addition. The correct solution is determined by considering the direction of the torque vector and ensuring that both components of the force are perpendicular to the lever. This leads to the conclusion that the two components should be added normally.
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Saptarshi Sarkar
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Homework Statement
In order to pull out the nail at B, as shown in the figure, the force F exerted on the handle of the hammer must produce a clockwise moment of 500 lb-in about point A. Determine the required magnitude of force F.
Relevant Equations
##T=F\times l##
First of all, sorry for the units. This is a problem I found on the internet and am confused about the solution.

I calculated the two components of the moment (torque) to be

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##T_x = 18\times Fcos(30)## and ##T_y=5\times Fsin(30)##

The problem is, I got the proper answer (the two options were 27.64 lb and 55.28 lb) by direct addition of the two components but did not get it by vector addition (for magnitude).

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I am not sure how I got the correct answer using a seemingly incorrect method.
 
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The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?
 
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Solution #1 is correct because both components of F (x and y) are perpendicular to the lever of each respect to the point A, where the moment said to be applied.
Solution #2 is incorrect because you are mixing torque with your effort to determine F from its x and y components.
 
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haruspex said:
The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?

Got it. Both of the them are pointing in the same direction, so it should be added normally. Thanks!
 

1. What is torque and how is it calculated?

Torque is a measure of the rotational force applied to an object. It is calculated by multiplying the magnitude of the force applied by the distance from the pivot point to the point where the force is applied.

2. What are torque components and how are they added together?

Torque components are individual forces that contribute to the total torque on an object. They can be added together using vector addition, taking into account the direction and magnitude of each component.

3. How do you calculate the moment of a force?

The moment of a force is the product of the force and the perpendicular distance from the point of rotation to the line of action of the force. It can be calculated using the formula M = F x d, where M is moment, F is force, and d is distance.

4. What is the difference between clockwise and counterclockwise torque?

Clockwise torque is a rotational force that causes an object to rotate in a clockwise direction, while counterclockwise torque causes an object to rotate in a counterclockwise direction. The direction of torque is dependent on the direction of the applied force.

5. How do you calculate the net torque on an object?

To calculate the net torque on an object, you must first find the individual torque components acting on the object. Then, add these components together using vector addition. The resulting sum will be the net torque on the object.

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