Hey guys,I'm looking for some sort of mosfet/relay/switch that can

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable MOSFET, relay, or switch capable of handling up to 1 milliamp and 8kV. Participants explore various technologies and options for high-voltage switching, including the use of series MOSFETs and high-voltage relays, while addressing concerns about voltage ratings and potential issues with arcing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using two 4kV MOSFETs in series to achieve the desired 8kV, expressing uncertainty about the technology.
  • Another participant emphasizes that voltage is critical in relays to prevent issues like arc-over and contact welding, suggesting that high-voltage relays are typically inert-gas filled or vacuum-sealed.
  • A participant warns against using multiple relays in series due to the risk of high voltage appearing across a single contact at the moment of contact.
  • Links to high-voltage relay options from Tyco and Meder are provided, with some participants noting the potential high cost of these components.
  • Several participants share links to specific relays found online, with prices varying based on voltage ratings.
  • One participant inquires about the switching frequency and suggests using a step-up transformer for lower voltage switching.
  • Another participant mentions IGBTs and ignitrons as alternatives for high-power switching.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using relays versus MOSFETs for high-voltage applications, with no consensus reached on the best approach. Concerns about arcing and the importance of voltage ratings in relays are highlighted, but opinions on specific components and strategies vary.

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Participants note the importance of voltage ratings and potential issues with arcing in high-voltage applications, but there are unresolved questions about the best components and configurations for the specified requirements.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in high-voltage electronics, particularly those exploring options for switching devices capable of handling high voltage and low current.

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Hey guys,

I'm looking for some sort of mosfet/relay/switch that can handle up to 1 milliamp and 8kV. I don't understand the technology very well, but from talking to some people, I know I can put 2 4kV mosfets in series to achieve my 8kV goal. On the other hand, while looking for relays, I couldn't seem to pin any down. My friend said that voltage wouldn't matter in a relay, as long as the current isn't too high, but when looking on digikey, the relays had voltage ratings, where all of them were too low for my application.

Here is the 4kV mosfet

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=IXTV03N400S-ND

Thanks,

Danny
 
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Voltage most certainly matters in relays--with very high voltages, you can get arc-over (which will deteriorate your contacts over time, assuming you don't have continuous arcing) or the contacts arc-welding together and not de-latching. To avoid these sorts of issues, I think most of these relays are either inert-gas filled or contain a vacuum.

I don't have a great deal of experience in the high-voltage switching regime (so hopefully someone with more experience weighs in), but I'd avoid trying to put multiple ones in series--at the point and moment of contact, you can have all of the high voltage across a single contact (or junction, if you're using a solid state relay / MOSFET).

When I Googled for high voltage relay, I found some by a unit or two that Tyco had acquired:
http://relays.tycoelectronics.com/high_volt.asp

Meder also seems to sell 10 and 15 kV rated reed switches:
http://www.meder.com/high-voltage-relays6.html

As expected, you're probably looking at a hefty price tag.

EDIT: Actually, when I clicked on the Meder "Check distributor stock" link, there are some 7k5 and 10k relays at Mouser / Digikey for <$100, and even less at TTI!
http://service.stkcheck.com/Default.aspx?mfg=b0629033-c213-4a47-aba9-65a840d82710&parts=H__
 
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petitericeball said:
After looking around, I think I found some for around $30

I'd definitely spec for higher rather than lower voltage (the 10kV ones seem to be in the $40-$50 range, rather than the $30 range that most of the 7k or 7k5 ones sit at). TTI seems to have the cheapest for the Medco high voltage reed relays, but I've never used them before.
 


What is the switching frequency.
You can switch at lower voltage and use a step up transformer.

Have you looked at IGBTs.
Real high power switching is done with ignitrons.
 

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