B How can a permeable piston be adiabatic?

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A permeable piston can be considered adiabatic if it allows substances to pass through while preventing heat transfer. The discussion highlights that materials can be designed to absorb specific substances, losing thermal energy without conducting heat themselves. Microporous materials can selectively permit superfluid components while blocking non-superfluid phases, functioning as nearly ideal adiabatic pistons. The concept is illustrated through the example of a Stirling engine, where a permeable displacer serves a similar purpose. Overall, the idea challenges traditional notions of pistons by redefining their thermal and material properties.
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How can a permeable piston be adiabatic? If substances can go in and out of the cylinder and the substances have heat energy, heat can be exchanged through a permeable piston.
I came across this term in the book, but cannot understand.
 
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How can a permeable piston even be a piston?
 
You could use an ice cube as a piston which is permeable for water at 0 deg. , but impermeable for heat. Better even, use some porous material which strongly absorbs the substance it shall be permeable for. The substance will loose its thermal energy when first binding to the material, and then diffuse against the temperature gradiet. Microporous substances are permeable for the superfluid component of liquid Helium which has S=0, but not the non-superfluid phase, which has S>0, so they can act as nearly ideal permeable adiabatic pistons for helium.
 
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It's an idealization. Substances can flow through the pores, but the material comprising the piston does not conduct heat. This would be the same deal as an array of insulated capillaries in parallel.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
How can a permeable piston even be a piston?

A Stirling engine involves the use of a permeable 'piston' although the term 'displacer' is used to distinguish it from the type of 'piston' you have in mind.
 
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