How can an astronaut lower the perigee of a circular orbit?

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An astronaut can lower the perigee of a circular orbit by altering the velocity of an object, such as a nut, thrown in the opposite direction of the orbital motion. This action can change the orbit from circular to elliptical, allowing the perigee to intersect with the Earth's surface. While theoretically possible, achieving the necessary change in speed (ΔV) requires precise calculations and implementation, typically by throwing the object backward at a specific angle. Ignoring atmospheric effects, a decrease in speed will result in a new orbit that can eventually decay if it dips into the atmosphere. Understanding the relationship between orbital speed and radius is crucial for solving this problem effectively.
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I think if the astronaut can somehow throw it behind himself, against the direction of orbital motion ( 180° opposite ) such that the total orbital velocity of the nut is canceled , it should fall straight down . But this is practically not possible .

Another way is to throw it backwards at an angle such that the velocity vector points towards Earth .

I am not really sure with the above reasoning .

Any sincere help is appreciated .

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Vibhor said:
I think if the astronaut can somehow throw it behind himself, against the direction of orbital motion ( 180° opposite ) such that the total orbital velocity of the nut is canceled , it should fall straight down . But this is practically not possible .

Indeed not practical if he has to cancel all orbital speed, but could less do it?

Perhaps you can find some equations that relates orbital speed and orbital radius?
 
Filip Larsen said:
orbital speed and orbital radius?
But it is not necessary to get it into a circular orbit with radius equal to that of Earth. It is only necessary that its orbit intersects Earth's surface. Not sure how hard it is to solve that.
 
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hi haruspex ,

If you were the astronaut in the problem , what would you do ? :smile:
 
Vibhor said:
I think if the astronaut can somehow throw it behind himself, against the direction of orbital motion ( 180° opposite ) such that the total orbital velocity of the nut is canceled , it should fall straight down . But this is practically not possible .

Another way is to throw it backwards at an angle such that the velocity vector points towards Earth .
Ignoring the atmosphere you need only alter the orbit of the nut so that its perigee coincides with the Earth's surface.

If the atmosphere is not to be ignored and you're not in any great hurry to land the nut, then having the perigee dip into the atmosphere will eventually decay the orbit.

So a big hint would be: Find the required ΔV that would lower the perigee of the nut accordingly.
 
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Hi gneill

Thanks for replying .

gneill said:
Ignoring the atmosphere you need only alter the orbit of the nut so that its perigee coincides with the Earth's surface.

Are you suggesting that a decrease in speed would change the orbit from circular to elliptical such that the perigee just touches the surface ??

If the atmosphere is not to be ignored and you're not in any great hurry to land the nut, then having the perigee dip into the atmosphere will eventually decay the orbit.

Sorry .I did not understand .

So a big hint would be: Find the required ΔV that would lower the perigee of the nut accordingly.
But even if ΔV is calculated , the astronaut needs a way to implement the change in speed . Would you agree he needs to throw the nut backwards in opposite direction such that the required change in speed is achieved??
 
Vibhor said:
Hi gneill

Thanks for replying .
Are you suggesting that a decrease in speed would change the orbit from circular to elliptical such that the perigee just touches the surface ??
Yes.
Sorry .I did not understand .
What happens to an object moving through air, especially at high speeds? What forces does it encounter? What are the results?
But even if ΔV is calculated , the astronaut needs a way to implement the change in speed . Would you agree he needs to throw the nut backwards in opposite direction such that the required change in speed is achieved??
Sure.
 
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Ok .

Doesn't the angle at which the nut is thrown of any significance ?
 
Vibhor said:
Ok .

Doesn't the angle at which the nut is thrown of any significance ?
Yes. The details of the "new" orbit depends upon the particulars of the ΔV and the resulting new velocity vector. But the most efficient way to lower the perigee is to direct that ΔV opposite to the original velocity of the circular orbit.

Edit: You might want to look up "Hohmann Transfer Orbit".
 
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