How can I adjust the roll off of my preamp design for better frequency response?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on adjusting the roll off of a low noise preamp design to improve frequency response, particularly to decrease gain at very low frequencies (1-5Hz) while maintaining a good response at higher frequencies (40dB). Participants explore circuit modifications and theoretical considerations related to filter design.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to modify their preamp design to achieve a sharper roll off for low frequencies, referencing a desired bode plot for guidance.
  • Another participant suggests a two pole highpass filter circuit, providing specific component value adjustments for different corner frequencies.
  • A participant indicates the need for a third order system to meet their design goals, acknowledging the trade-offs involved and expressing intent to modify the original circuit.
  • It is mentioned that adjusting the value of a specific capacitor (C2) can introduce an additional pole, contingent on the output impedance the circuit will drive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying approaches to achieving the desired frequency response, with no consensus on the best method or configuration. The discussion remains open to further exploration and modifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific corner frequencies and component values, indicating that the effectiveness of proposed solutions may depend on additional circuit parameters and design choices.

Roy Fokker
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Hello I am developing a low noise preamp and would like to change the roll off of my design to sharply decrease the gain for very low frequencies "1-5Hz". The results of my current design are as follows.
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I would need something that looked more like this..
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I understand the simple equations of changing the corner frequency and gain but I am unsure how to change the roll off. I recall I may have covered some of this in control systems but that was quite some time ago.

Ideally id like to replicate the results in the above bode plot and have good response (40db) for higher frequencies.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Here is a two pole highpass filter ckt you may be able to use or modify. Note that the component values are for 100Hz corner frequency. For 14Hz corner freq. (1/7 freq.) multiply cap values by 7, for 10Hz (1/10 freq.) multiply cap values by 10.
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Thanks for the response I was looking into it today, ill need a 3rd order system to achieve the desired results... There is always a trade off though. Ill report back when I have some more information. I am hoping I can achieve this with a modification to the original circuit.
 
If you know what output impedance it will drive, you can get a additional pole by adjusting the value of C2.
 

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