How can I find the current for each resistor in this circuit?

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To find the current through each resistor in the circuit, apply Kirchhoff's laws, particularly the voltage law, which states that the sum of potential differences in a closed loop must equal zero. The user initially struggled with the concepts and equations, expressing frustration with their teacher's teaching methods. They attempted mesh analysis to derive the currents but faced challenges in understanding the relationships between the resistors and the voltage source. Ultimately, after guidance from peers, they managed to solve the problem independently, indicating that persistence and collaboration can lead to understanding complex circuit analysis. The discussion highlights the importance of mastering fundamental electrical principles like Ohm's law and Kirchhoff's laws for solving circuit problems.
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Homework Statement



Consider the group of resistors shown in the figure below, where R1 = 4.4 Ω and E = 8.7 V (that is supposed to be the greek "E" that looks like a backwards "3")

Find the current for each resistor:

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Homework Equations



V = IR?
E = I(R1 + R2 +R3...)?

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is that my teacher is very bad and students have actually started a petition against her because she messes everything up and confuses herself. This is the last class I need in order to graduate, so I am in desperate need of help. I know you guys don't do the problem for me, all I need is for you guys point me in the right direction for this.

E = I(Req) so I = E/Req

I don't even know how to start, please help.
 
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you can solve this problem using "kirchhoff's law" ..
 
Its impossible to teach this to myself, you don't understand how bad this teacher is. Some fellow students and I were talking about this class after lecture and we all agreed that this lady should never have been hired.

I can't figure this out at all.
 
E = (I1)(R4.4) - (I2)(R1.2) - (I3)(R9.8) = 0

That got me nowhere :(
 
(I4)(R6.7) = (I2)(R1.2) got me nowhere either
 
u can solve it using mesh analysis or by superposition law...
lets solve it using mesh analysis:
consider the left mesh with I1 traversing it in clockwise direction: then: 12v=I1(R1+1.2+9.8) so u can get I1
consider the right mesh with I2 traversing it also in clock wise direction: then: -E=I2(1.2+6.7) so u can get I2.
in a result:resistors (R1 and 9.8) have I1 traversing them
resistor 6.7 has I2 traversing it
and finally resistor 1.2 has (I1-I2) traversing it in downward direction
 
12V = I1(4.4 + 1.2 + 9.8)

12V = I1(15.4)

I1 = 12V/15.4

I1 = .779 which doesn't get me anywhere either :(
 
yes I1=0.779 A...where is the problem?

this the current traversing R1 (from left to right)
and this current also traversing 9.8ohm (from right to left)..

same way u calculate I2 (in the second mesh and in clock wise direction)...which is the current traversing 6.7 ohm...then ( I1-I2 ) is the current traversing 1.2 ohm


note: i test this circuit on the multisim 9 program..and i get the expected values using this method (mesh analysis)
 
I have to find the current running through each resistor, and isn't that equation V=IR?

I know V, I know R, and I know "I" so there is nothing for me to solve for. Or am I supposed to be using a different equation?

Sorry for not knowing this better, but my teacher is the worst.
 
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yes sure V=IR is always valid (thats Ohm's law giving ralation between V and I across any resistor)...
but the above method (mesh analysis) gives u directly all the currents you need in any branch of the circuit..and so, you can get V across each resistor (using Ohms law V=IR)...
i think its hard to find V first..unless you use superposition law,but though superposition law can also find the currents instead of V...
 
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Kirchoff's laws are not difficult to understand. The first says that the potential across any closed loop is 0. That's pretty obvious: every point has to have a certain potential, so if you add up the potential increases and potential decreases across every resistor in a closed loop, you'll get 0 when you reach exactly the same point you started on. When current flows through a resistor, potential DROPS by V=IR; when current flows through a battery, potential could increase or decrease, depending on whether it flows from negative to positive or positive to negative.

The second of Kirchoff's laws is the law that current can never be "lost". If too wires combine into a single wire, the single wire must have a current of I1+I2; if it doesn't, that means some charge was lost, and that's not possible.

To solve circuits using Kirchoff's laws, start by assuming that current flows in a certain direction in each of the wire segments. It doesn't matter which direction you chose; if you chose the wrong one, your answer will turn out to be negative, but its magnitude will still be correct. Then apply Kirchoff's voltage law to as many closed loops as you can find. Do the same with Kirchoff's current law; find as many junctions as possible. Then solve the resulting system of equations. Some may be redundant; you'll know this if you have more equations than unknowns.
 
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Since I have to find the current for all 4 resistors can someone please show me how to solve the problem for 1 of the resistors and then let me solve for the remaining 3 on my own?

Would that be fair? I can't afford to let this bad teacher ruin my graduation.

If the net potential in a closed loop has to be 0 then I would think the current flowing through all 4 resistors is the same...
 
  • #13
Anybody?
 
  • #14
Ok, guess not :(
 
  • #15
Solved it! Thanks everybody ;)

Took a loooong time but it eventually clicked
 
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