How can the chain rule be applied to solve this differential equation?

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Homework Statement



The differential equation y + 4y^4 = (y^3 + 3x)y' can be written in differential form:

M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0

where

M(x,y)= y+4y^4 , and N(x,y)= -y^3-3x

The term (M(x,y)dx + N(x,y) dy) becomes an exact differential if the left hand side above is divided by y^4. Integrating that new equation, the solution of the differential equation is "answer goes here" = C


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The Attempt at a Solution



Am I suppose to do this and integrate?

(y+4y^4-y^3-3x)/y^4 = 0

or am I off the ball completely?

Thanks!
 
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I do not think y4 is an integrating factor but I did not check if ∂M/∂y=∂N/∂x

But if f(x,y) is the solution to the exact DE, then

∂f/∂x=M and ∂f/∂y=N

So you can find f(x,y) from either and then you use the other one to get the function in either y or x.

e.g. ∂f/∂x=3x2, then f(x,y)=x3+h(y), in which I would then put ∂f/∂y=N=h'(y) and integrate and solve for 'y'.
 
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Homework Statement



The differential equation y + 4y^4 = (y^3 + 3x)y' can be written in differential form:

M(x,y)dx + N(x,y)dy = 0

where

M(x,y)= y+4y^4 , and N(x,y)= -y^3-3x

The term (M(x,y)dx + N(x,y) dy) becomes an exact differential if the left hand side above is divided by y^4. Integrating that new equation, the solution of the differential equation is "answer goes here" = C


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Am I suppose to do this and integrate?

(y+4y^4-y^3-3x)/y^4 = 0

or am I off the ball completely?

Thanks!
No, you cannot just combine two functions like that. You are saying that
\frac{y+ 4y^4}{y^4}dx- \frac{y^3+ 3x}{y^4}dy= (y^{-3}+ 4)dy- (y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4})dy
is an exact differential. That means that there must exist some function F(x, y) such that
dF= \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}dy= (y^{-3}+ 4)dy- (y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4})dy

That means you need to solve
\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}= \frac{y+ 4y^4}{y^4}= y^{-3}+ 4
and
\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= \frac{-y^3- 3x}{y^4}= -y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4}

The first is easy. Integrating with respect to x (treating y as a constant)
F(x,y)= (y^{-3}+ 4)x+ f(y)= xy^{-3}+ 4x+ f(y)
where f can be any function of y (the derivative of any function of y with respect to x is 0).

Now differentiate that with respect to y:
\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= -3xy^{-4}+ f'(y)
and that must be equal to
-y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4}

Set them equal, solve for f' and then f.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, you cannot just combine two functions like that. You are saying that
\frac{y+ 4y^4}{y^4}dx- \frac{y^3+ 3x}{y^4}dy= (y^{-3}+ 4)dy- (y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4})dy
is an exact differential. That means that there must exist some function F(x, y) such that
dF= \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}dy= (y^{-3}+ 4)dy- (y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4})dy

That means you need to solve
\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}= \frac{y+ 4y^4}{y^4}= y^{-3}+ 4
and
\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= \frac{-y^3- 3x}{y^4}= -y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4}

The first is easy. Integrating with respect to x (treating y as a constant)
F(x,y)= (y^{-3}+ 4)x+ f(y)= xy^{-3}+ 4x+ f(y)
where f can be any function of y (the derivative of any function of y with respect to x is 0).

Now differentiate that with respect to y:
\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= -3xy^{-4}+ f'(y)
and that must be equal to
-y^{-1}- 3xy^{-4}

Set them equal, solve for f' and then f.

f'(y) = -y^-1 , f(y) = -ln(y) so F(x,y) = xy^-3+4x-ln(y)

While I was able to figure out what the problem was asking thanks to your help, I feel like I still don't truly understand the question it is asking. Like where did those partial derivatives come from?.. I don't know maybe its just me.
 
One thing I am sure you learned in Calculus is the "chain rule" for functions of more than one variable. If F is a function of x and y, and x and y are both functions of t, then
\frac{dF}{dt}= \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}

In "differential form",
dF= \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}dy

Saying that dF= 0 means that dF/dt= 0 for any parameter t and so F is a constant.
 
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