How Can You Solve the Oscillating Wave Problem in Vibrating Systems?

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The discussion revolves around solving the oscillating wave problem in vibrating systems, particularly focusing on the fundamental frequency and the relationship between force and wave properties. The user is attempting to apply the formula f = (1/2L)*sqrt(F/u) but is struggling due to a lack of information about the string's length and mass density. They consider the role of the y-component of force and the sine function in their calculations but remain uncertain about the correct approach. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between force, wavelength, and the properties of the vibrating system. Clarification on these concepts is necessary for a successful resolution of the problem.
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I would appreciate help on this problem.

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



f = (1/2L)*sqrt(F/u)

The Attempt at a Solution



This is vibrating at its fundamental frequency so L = (wavelength/2). To find k I reckon I need to find the force on the band and this should equal -kx. But I don't have the length of the string or the mass density. Is there a formula I am missing or something or what ?

Edit; or possibly it has something to do with this y = 2 Asin(kx+ot)sin(wt+ot). o is phase angle.

Thanks!
 
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Hi Fionn00! :smile:

(have a square-root: √ :wink:)
Fionn00 said:
… I don't have the length of the string or the mass density. Is there a formula I am missing or something or what ?

Don't forget you only need the "y" component of the force …

that sinθ should make all the difference :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Don't forget you only need the "y" component of the force …

that sinθ should make all the difference :wink:
Thanks for replying.

The y coordinate is the force in this formula f=1/2l * √F/u is it not ?
If so I want the force along the elastic which is this force divided by sinθ and sinθ is 1/L and the L's don't cancel so I still can't work it out ?
 
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