How Can You Solve the Oscillating Wave Problem in Vibrating Systems?

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The discussion focuses on solving the oscillating wave problem in vibrating systems, specifically using the formula f = (1/2L)*sqrt(F/u). The user struggles with determining the length of the string and mass density necessary for calculations. Key insights include the importance of the y component of the force and the relationship between the force and the sine of the angle (sinθ). The user also references the wave equation y = 2 Asin(kx+ot)sin(wt+ot) to explore potential solutions.

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I would appreciate help on this problem.

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



f = (1/2L)*sqrt(F/u)

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This is vibrating at its fundamental frequency so L = (wavelength/2). To find k I reckon I need to find the force on the band and this should equal -kx. But I don't have the length of the string or the mass density. Is there a formula I am missing or something or what ?

Edit; or possibly it has something to do with this y = 2 Asin(kx+ot)sin(wt+ot). o is phase angle.

Thanks!
 
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Hi Fionn00! :smile:

(have a square-root: √ :wink:)
Fionn00 said:
… I don't have the length of the string or the mass density. Is there a formula I am missing or something or what ?

Don't forget you only need the "y" component of the force …

that sinθ should make all the difference :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Don't forget you only need the "y" component of the force …

that sinθ should make all the difference :wink:
Thanks for replying.

The y coordinate is the force in this formula f=1/2l * √F/u is it not ?
If so I want the force along the elastic which is this force divided by sinθ and sinθ is 1/L and the L's don't cancel so I still can't work it out ?
 

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