How Do Filter Transfer Functions Determine Attenuation and Gain?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the rate of attenuation increase in dB per decade at high frequency for a given transfer function. It is established that with two zeros and four poles, the attenuation will be 20 dB per decade. The gain at DC is determined by substituting s=0 into the transfer function and applying the formula 10log(result). The concept that each zero increases gain by 10 dB per decade while each pole causes a 10 dB attenuation is explained through mathematical reasoning. The point at which attenuation becomes infinite occurs when the denominator of the transfer function equals zero.
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t(s)= [2(s^2+9.32)] / [s^4+1.322s^3+0.976s^2+.750s+1]

how do you calculate the reate of attenuation increase in db per decade at high frequency?

Determine the gain in db at dc. To do this, just replace s=0 and then do 10log(result) right?

Also, at which freq is the attenation infinite? Is it when the denominator = 0?


Thanks:-p
 
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Each zero increases the gain by a factor of 10 dB per decade. Each pole causes an attenuation of 10 dB per decade.
Since you have 2 zeros and 4 poles, the attenuation at high frequency will be 20 dB per dacade.
 
how do you know poles/zeros cause attenuation/gain by a factor of 10?
 
david90 said:
how do you know poles/zeros cause attenuation/gain by a factor of 10?
We learned it from the class that you are taking now.
 
I'm looking for a proof.:smile:
 
david90 said:
how do you know poles/zeros cause attenuation/gain by a factor of 10?
Consider a system with a single pole:
G(s) = \frac{A}{s+a}
the gain in low frequency is obtained making s = 0.
Gain_{dB}=10log_{10}\frac{A}{a}
The gain at a frequency \omega is:
Gain_{dB}=10log_{10}\frac{A}{|j\omega+a|} = 10log_{10}A - 10log_{10}|j\omega+a|
At a frequency \omega_1 >> a the gain may be approximated by:
Gain_{dB}=10log_{10}\frac{A}{|j\omega+a|} = <br /> 10log_{10}A - 10log_{10}\omega_1
At a frequency \omega_2 = 10|omega_1 the gain will be:
Gain_{dB}=10log_{10}\frac{A}{|j\omega+a|} = 10log_{10}A - 10log_{10}\10omega_1 = 10log_{10}\frac{A}{|j\omega+a|} = 10log_{10}A - 10log_{10}\omega_1 - 10log_{10}10 = 10log_{10}A - 10log_{10}\omega_1 - 10
So, you have a loss of 10dB in one decade.
The reasoning for zeros is the inverse.
 
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