How do I correctly derive the formula d = vt + 1/2 at^2?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the formula d = vt + 1/2at^2, addressing the initial misunderstanding about incorporating initial velocity in the derivation. Participants clarify that the formula can be derived using both calculus and algebra, emphasizing the relationship between displacement, velocity, and acceleration. The importance of understanding average velocity and the area under the velocity-time curve is highlighted, with references to calculus concepts. A step-by-step breakdown is provided to show how the formula is constructed from basic principles. Ultimately, the correct derivation confirms the relationship between distance, initial velocity, and acceleration over time.
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d=vt+1/2at^2
Derive me this formula please... When I do I get 1/2(vt+at^2)...i know that I'm doing a mistake by not considering the initial velocity... So how do I correct it?
 
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anandzoom said:
d=vt+1/2at^2
Derive me this formula please... When I do I get 1/2(vt+at^2)...i know that I'm doing a mistake by not considering the initial velocity... So how do I correct it?

Welcome to the PF.

Can you show us the steps of your derivation? That will help us find any errors.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Can you show us the steps of your derivation? That will help us find any errors.

v=d/t ;d=vt
a=d/t^2 ;d=at^2
1/2d+1/2d=1/2vt+1/2at^2
d=1/2(vt+at^2)
 
anandzoom said:
v=d/t ;d=vt
a=d/t^2 ;d=at^2
1/2d+1/2d=1/2vt+1/2at^2
d=1/2(vt+at^2)

Thank you, that helps. Have you had any Calculus yet? Are you familiar with derivatives?
 
berkeman said:
Thank you, that helps. Have you had any Calculus yet? Are you familiar with derivatives?
Yup
 
anandzoom said:
Yup

Great. In that case, where did the bolded equation come from below?

anandzoom said:
v=d/t ;d=vt
a=d/t^2 ;d=at^2
1/2d+1/2d=1/2vt+1/2at^2
d=1/2(vt+at^2)
 
berkeman said:
Great. In that case, where did the bolded equation come from below?
acceleration= velocity/time
 
anandzoom said:
acceleration= velocity/time

Actually it's the change in velocity over time, or in calculus, a(t) = dv(t)/dt.

But it's also possible to do the derivation for a constant acceleration using only triangles. Here's a YouTube video that helps to explain it:



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How can you say that displacement is area under the velocity curve?
 
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anandzoom said:
How can you say that displacement is area under the velocity curve?

That's from calculus:

v(t) = dx(t)/dt

a(t) = dv(t)/dt

So when you integrate both sides of the first equation, you are effectively finding the "area under the curve"...

x = \int{v(t) dt}
 
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Ok thanks
 
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If acceleration is constant, then you can use algebra instead of calculus. Note that Δt means change in time, Δx means change in position, a = acceleration, v = velocity.

initial velocity = v
final velocity = v + a Δt
average velocity = (initial velocity + final velocity) / 2 = ((v) + (v a Δt))/2 = v + 1/2 a Δt
Δx = average velocity Δt = (v + 1/2 a Δt) Δt = v Δt + 1/2 a Δt^2
 
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it is not possible to write v = d/t but v=dx/dt and a = dv/dt
then v(t) =∫a(t)dt =at + v , v is the initial velocity and the acceleration a is constant.
it comes : x(t) =∫v(t)dt = 1/2 at^2 + vt + x(0), x(0) is the initial position assumed nill then x(0) =0

finally the distance d is x(t) =d= vt + 1/2 a t^2
 
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