How Do Ladders Interact in a Frictionless Environment?

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In a frictionless environment, two ladders of different lengths are hinged and tied together, creating a system where forces and torques must be analyzed. The upward forces at the bottom of the ladders were determined to be 391 N for the 4.00 m ladder and 449 N for the 3.00 m ladder. The tension in the horizontal rope and the force exerted by one ladder on the other at the hinge point A were also discussed, with the book providing answers for these calculations. A suggestion was made to enhance understanding by adding forces and dimensions to the diagram for clarity. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly accounting for all forces in the torque analysis.
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Two ladders, 4.00 m and 3.00 m long, are hinged at point A and tied together by a horizontal rope 0.90 m above the floor. The ladders weight 480 N and 360 N respectively, and the center of gravity of each is at its center. Assume that the floor is freshly waxed and frictionless.
  • a) Find the upward force at the bottom of each ladder.
  • b) Find the tension in the rope.
  • c) Find the magnitude of the force one ladder exerts on the other at point A.
  • d) If an 800 N painter stands at point A, find the tension in the horizontal rope.

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For part a I attempted to do net torque, but I cannot figure how to account for all of them. The book says that the answer for part a is 391 for the left ladder (4m one) and 449 for the right ladder (3m one).
 
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For part a I attempted to do net torque, but I cannot figure how to account for all of them.

How many do you think there are? Perhaps start by adding forces and dimensions to the diagram and posting that so we can see where you are going wrong. eg Which ones can't you account for?

Hint: I have an origin and three forces on my version.

I get the book answer.
 
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