How Do Masses Move With a String Instead of a Spring?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of two masses connected by a string, focusing on their motion and acceleration as they approach each other. Participants are exploring how the absence of a spring affects the calculations related to their movement.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the implications of using a string instead of a spring, particularly in terms of acceleration and tension. Questions arise about how to calculate the time taken for the masses to slow down as they approach each other.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the differences between a spring and a string in this context. Some participants have acknowledged the initial misunderstanding regarding the type of connection between the masses, which has led to further clarification and questioning of assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted the importance of recognizing the nature of the connection (string vs. spring) and its impact on the motion of the masses. There is a focus on the variable tension in the string as a factor affecting acceleration.

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Homework Statement
Two particles of equal mass (m) on a smooth horizontal table are connected by the a thin elastic string of natural length (a) in which a tension mg would produce an extension (a). The particles are held at rest at a distance (3a) apart.
i. Describe their motions between the time they are released and when they collide.
ii. If the particles are released simultaneously, calculate the time elapsed before they
collide, given a = 0.20 m.
Relevant Equations
F=kx
T=2*pi*sqrt(m/k)
I understand the masses will accelerate toward each other with the same varying speed before they reach the natural length of the spring. Then they continue to approach each other while compress the spring, that'll slow their speeds down definitely. So my question is, how could we calculate how long they take for the slowing-down process?
 
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What you wrote would be true for a spring, but you don’t have a spring in this problem. You have a string.
 
aiyiaiyiai said:
I understand the masses will accelerate toward each other with the same varying speed before they reach the natural length of the spring elastic string. Then they continue to approach each other while compress the spring, that'll slow their speeds down definitely at constant velocity once the distance between them has reached the value of a (natural length of the elastic string).
For each particle, you have acceleration from repose along distance a, and then constant final velocity along distance 0.5a (point of impact).
Note that the acceleration is caused by a variable or decreasing tension of the string.
 
Lnewqban said:
For each particle, you have acceleration from repose along distance a, and then constant final velocity along distance 0.5a (point of impact).
Note that the acceleration is caused by a variable or decreasing tension of the string.
OMG, I didn't realize it is a string! thx!
 
yes my bad. I didn't realize it is a string. 😂
vela said:
What you wrote would be true for a spring, but you don’t have a spring in this problem. You have a string.
 

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