How do one reduce the pressure?

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The discussion revolves around methods to reduce air pressure from 4 bar to a much lower level, specifically to a few thousand pascals. Participants explore various devices and approaches, including pressure regulators and throttle valves, and consider their applicability in different systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about using a throttle valve to reduce pressure and seeks clarification on its functionality.
  • Another participant explains that a throttling valve does not reduce pressure directly but can create a pressure drop under certain conditions, emphasizing the need for a constant flow rate and upstream pressure.
  • Suggestions are made to explore manufacturers of low-pressure regulators, with specific recommendations for brands like Fischer and Fairchild.
  • There is a question about the feasibility of using multiple regulators in series to achieve the desired pressure reduction, with mixed responses regarding its effectiveness.
  • A participant suggests that a throttle valve could be useful for filling a vessel to a specific pressure, provided a pressure transducer is used downstream.
  • Additional recommendations for products from Swagelok and Parker are mentioned as potential sources for suitable regulators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of throttle valves and the use of multiple regulators in series. There is no consensus on the best approach to achieve the desired pressure reduction, and various opinions on the applicability of different devices remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of specific system requirements, such as flow rates and pressure ranges, which may affect the choice of devices. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of the application context when selecting pressure reduction methods.

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Hi all.
I have a air pressure supply of 4 bar and I need to reduce it to say a few thousands Pa.
What I have now is a pressure regulator that can reduce the pressure to 0.1 bar, but I need a even smaller pressure.
Is there any device that I can use?
I heard something called throttle valve? is it something I can use?
It reduces pressure by percentage or to a certain level?
Please kindly help. Thanks.
 
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A throttling valve doesn't reduce pressure, it is simply a restriction in the line. It will serve the purpose of reducing pressure if the flow rate is constant, upstream pressure is constant, and there is some inherent feature in the system which compensates for minor variations in flow. Without knowing what your system looks like however, it's best not to speculate on whether or not a throttling valve would work.

There are many manufacturers of very low pressure regulators. I'd suggest looking into Fischer to start.
http://www.fisherregulators.com/
 
You should also do a search on www.globalspec.com based on your specific requirements to see if anything turns up.
 
Would running a couple of regulators in series do it?
 
Danger said:
Would running a couple of regulators in series do it?

No, it has to be designed for low pressure applications.

CS
 
Sorry, then, pal. I know nothing about this; I was just throwing in my 2 cents. Times like this, I really wish that I had an education.
 
He's only trying to reduce 50 psi to around 0.5 psi, so 2 regulators in series wouldn't really be necessary. I did a search on GlobalSpec and found many regulators that have adjustment ranges similar to the OP.
 
Depending on the fluid and the flowrates, there are indeed a lot of vendors that make applicable regulators. If it is a relatively low airflow requirement (when compared to large industrial applications), look at someone like Fairchild regulators or, for a more expensive but very nice regulator, look at Tescom.
 
Actually a throttle valve may work if you need to fill a vessel up to a specific pressure and the regulators output pressure is to high you can slow the fill rate down and more accurately fill your application. you will need a separate pressure transducer downstream of the throttle valve probably about 0-100 torr. The fact that you need sub-atmospheric pressures makes me believe you are probably not dealing with a continuous flow device.

http://www.swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?SEARCH=/id-10000277/type-1" makes good products just don't use the brass ones!
 
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also take look to parker products. similar to swagelok

Rick
 
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