How do things of opposite charge attract?

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The discussion centers on the complexities of particle interactions, particularly the attraction between electrons and positrons through virtual particle exchange. Participants express confusion over how these interactions occur, noting that while the behavior of forces can be described, the underlying mechanisms remain elusive. One contributor highlights that physics primarily explains the behavior of forces rather than their mechanisms, leading to philosophical inquiries about balance in the universe. Despite the existence of theories like virtual particles, there is consensus that they do not fully clarify why attractive forces exist. The conversation reflects a blend of scientific curiosity and philosophical exploration, emphasizing the limitations of current understanding in particle physics.
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I've racked my brain over this one since I was 15 and I really can't figure it out. I can see how two electrons would bounce away from each other with the exchange of a virtual photon, since one pushes off on the photon and the other absorbs it(even if I don't understand how the electron knows when to shoot out the photon, in which direction and where it goes when it's absorbed). But how a positron and an electron can attract with the same kind of exchange is completely beyond me. Is this just the kinda weirdness that goes on at those levels?
 
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In all honesty, this kind of question is really more in the realm of philosophy or the "theory development" thread, than in general physics.

Physics doesn't really describe the mechanisms of the forces as much as it describes their behavior. Even if you go to the unified field theories, or whatnot, there really isn't a good qualitative description of how the forces work.
 
Thanks, Nate. You put years of wonder to rest with the answer "no one knows." And in a weird way that satisfies me somehow. Now I can get some rest while I wait for them to build bigger particle accelerators. :smile:
 


Originally posted by Ambitwistor
It's not quite true that this is not understood. We don't know why attractive forces exist in the first place, but we understand how virtual particle exchange can result in attraction. There is even a FAQ on this, but IMHO it's not too clearly written for the layman:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Quantum/virtual_particles.html

What an irony! We both posted the same link and almost at the same time!
 
Would it not lie in the theme of balanace? Everthing in the universe should/'wants to be balanced therefore an electron will attract a positron?
 


Originally posted by Ambitwistor
It's not quite true that this is not understood. We don't know why attractive forces exist in the first place, but we understand how virtual particle exchange can result in attraction. There is even a FAQ on this, but IMHO it's not too clearly written for the layman:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Quantum/virtual_particles.html

I'm not trying to denigrate the theory of virtual particles, but this doesn't really answer the question that was asked.
Unfortunately this theory does little but replace one set of behavioral descriptions with another. Instead of an electromagnetic field, there is now a quantum field or virtual particle. AFAIK this model makes better predictions than Maxwell's, but it still doesn't explain the atraction.

Would it not lie in the theme of balanace? Everthing in the universe should/'wants to be balanced therefore an electron will attract a positron?
That notion is, as I predicted, philosophic in nature. Moreover, it does not apply to other forces, such as gravity (which is universally attractive).
 
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