How Do You Calculate Average Induced Voltage in a Changing Magnetic Field?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average induced voltage in a wire due to changes in a magnetic field. For part (a), the induced voltage is calculated as 3.73 x 10^-6 volts when the wire kink shrinks, while part (b) yields an induced voltage of 1.30 x 10^-4 volts as the magnetic field increases. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly expressing answers in scientific notation to avoid misinterpretation. There is also a debate about the accuracy of the answers provided, with some suggesting that they may have been copied from a calculator without proper understanding. Clarity in polarity and proper notation are highlighted as critical aspects of the calculations.
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Homework Statement



The magnetic field shown in Figure P20.61 has a uniform magnitude of 29.00 mT directed into the paper. The initial diameter of the kink is 0.30 cm.

(a) The wire is quickly pulled taut, and the kink shrinks to a diameter of zero in 55.00 ms. Determine the average voltage induced between endpoints A and B. (Include the polarity, with + for positive A)

(b) Suppose the kink is undisturbed, but the magnetic field increases to 96.00 mT in 3.65×10-3 s. Determine the average voltage across terminals A and B, including polarity, during this period.

(a) B=.029 T d/2=r=.0015 m A=7.065E-6 m^2 Flux final = 0 t=.055

(b) B=.096 T A=7.065E-6 m^2 Δt=3.65E-3 s

Homework Equations



I think I'm supposed to use the following:
A=∏r^2 Flux=BAcos∅ Emf=-N ΔFlux / Δtime Emf=Flux(final)-Flux(initial) / Δt

The Attempt at a Solution



a) Flux =7.065E-6 X .029 = 2.04E-7 --> Emf= 2.03E-7 / .055 = 3.73E-6 Volts

b)Flux2 =.096 X 7.065E-6 = 6.78E-7 6.78E-7 - 2.04E-7 = 4.74E-7
Emf = 4.74E-7/3.65E-3 s = 1.30E-4 Volts
 
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Looks good to me. (Next time include the diagram.)
 
bsugeology said:

Homework Statement



The magnetic field shown in Figure P20.61 has a uniform magnitude of 29.00 mT directed into the paper. The initial diameter of the kink is 0.30 cm.

(a) The wire is quickly pulled taut, and the kink shrinks to a diameter of zero in 55.00 ms. Determine the average voltage induced between endpoints A and B. (Include the polarity, with + for positive A)

(b) Suppose the kink is undisturbed, but the magnetic field increases to 96.00 mT in 3.65×10-3 s. Determine the average voltage across terminals A and B, including polarity, during this period.

(a) B=.029 T d/2=r=.0015 m A=7.065E-6 m^2 Flux final = 0 t=.055

(b) B=.096 T A=7.065E-6 m^2 Δt=3.65E-3 s

Homework Equations



I think I'm supposed to use the following:
A=∏r^2 Flux=BAcos∅ Emf=-N ΔFlux / Δtime Emf=Flux(final)-Flux(initial) / Δt

The Attempt at a Solution



a) Flux =7.065E-6 X .029 = 2.04E-7 --> Emf= 2.03E-7 / .055 = 3.73E-6 Volts

b)Flux2 =.096 X 7.065E-6 = 6.78E-7 6.78E-7 - 2.04E-7 = 4.74E-7
Emf = 4.74E-7/3.65E-3 s = 1.30E-4 Volts

How did you go with the polarity? That's the part people most commonly get wrong. In (a) the flux reduced to zero, in (b) the flux increased so they can't both be positive, so I am guessing you have not attempted that part yet.

By the way, the answers you gave are incorrect, they are merely copied from a calculator. part (a) may possibly be 3.73 x 10-6 Volts
 
PeterO said:
By the way, the answers you gave are incorrect, they are merely copied from a calculator. part (a) may possibly be 3.73 x 10-6 Volts
Why do you say the answers are incorrect? You gave the same answer.

To deal with the polarity, we'll need the diagram.
 
Doc Al said:
Why do you say the answers are incorrect? You gave the same answer.

To deal with the polarity, we'll need the diagram.

I was commenting on the E-6 part of the answer.

Any answer which includes such references is necessarily marked wrong in our school system. It gives no indication of understanding what the calculator is telling you.
Same as quoting too many significant figures simply because you wrote down all the numbers the calculator was telling you.

The answer I gave was in scientific notation, not calculator speak.
 
PeterO said:
I was commenting on the E-6 part of the answer.
OK, but that's fairly standard notation.
 
Doc Al said:
OK, but that's fairly standard notation.

It may be a common way students write their answers but it is still wrong. In no way should it become accepted as a fairly standard notation.
Students will only continue to write their answers in such a way if their answer is accepted as correct.
Because of the way some calculators display, the answer 3.73-6 is sometimes offered up. Would you accept that as correct?

Even to say 3.73 μV would be better.
 
PeterO said:
It may be a common way students write their answers but it is still wrong. In no way should it become accepted as a fairly standard notation.
Students will only continue to write their answers in such a way if their answer is accepted as correct.
You are free to do whatever you like in your own classroom. Perhaps the OP just blindly copied an answer from the calculator and has no clue what it means. But I would not assume that.
Because of the way some calculators display, the answer 3.73-6 is sometimes offered up. Would you accept that as correct?
No.

I think it's pretty unhelpful to make a blanket statement such as "Your answers are incorrect", when correct work was shown. A more helpful suggestion would be: You may want to express your answers in standard scientific notation.
 
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