How Do You Calculate Average Speed in Different Driving Conditions?

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To calculate average speed in varying driving conditions, the discussion focuses on a scenario where a driver travels half the time at two different speeds. For the trip from San Antonio to Houston, the average speed is determined by averaging the two speeds, resulting in 80.5 km/h after canceling out time in the equation. The return trip's average speed requires similar calculations, while the average velocity for the entire trip is zero due to the net displacement being zero when returning to the starting point. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the difference between average speed and average velocity, with emphasis on algebraic manipulation to solve the problems. Overall, the thread provides insights into calculating average speed and velocity in physics.
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Homework Statement


You drive on Interstate 10 from San Antonio to Houston, half the time at 58 km/h and the other half at 103 km/h. On the way back you travel half the distance at 58 km/h and the other half at 103 km/h. What is your average speed (a) from San Antonio to Houston, (b) from Houston back to San Antonio, and (c) for the entire trip? (d) What is your average velocity for the entire trip?

Homework Equations


V=d/t[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


with a help of a friend online but I still don't understand it.
a.) (58*t/2 + 103*t/2) / t = 58/2+103/2 = (58+103)/2 = 80.5 The problem is I don't know how did "t" gone
b.) D/(D/2/(58))+(D/2/(103)) = ??
c.) none, stuck in A and B so can't answer this
d.) I don't why "zero" is the answer here pls explain

Help pls
I kinda suck at Algebra which lead to sucking in Physics too lol
 
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hiineko said:
a.) (58*t/2 + 103*t/2) / t = 58/2+103/2 = (58+103)/2 = 80.5 The problem is I don't know how did "t" gone
If it hadn't gone, you couldn't have solved the equation because you have no information about the duration of the trip.

hiineko said:
b.) D/(D/2/(58))+(D/2/(103)) = ??
What is the problem here? This equation is correct, you just have to solve it.

hiineko said:
c.) none stuck
You have to use the same equation: v=d/t. What is the distance and time if we look at the entire trip? As you don't have exact data about these, you have to express them somehow and hope that the unknown cancels :D.

hiineko said:
d.) I don't why "zero" is the answer here pls explain
What is the difference between speed and velocity?
 
hiineko said:

The Attempt at a Solution


with a help of a friend online but I still don't understand it.
a.) (58*t/2 + 103*t/2) / t = 58/2+103/2 = (58+103)/2 = 80.5 The problem is I don't know how did "t" gone
b.) D/(D/2/(58))+(D/2/(103)) = ??
c.) none stuck
d.) I don't why "zero" is the answer here pls explain

Help pls
I kinda suck at Algebra which lead to sucking in Physics too lol
Do you know what average speed and velocity is ? What exactly is your doubt ? What do you mean by none stuck ?
 
Qwertywerty said:
Do you know what average speed and velocity is ? What exactly is your doubt ? What do you mean by none stuck ?

Sorry I meant to say no answer because I got stuck to letter a and b.

my doubt is I'm lacking knowledge of doing it algebraically.
especially in letter A I mean how did t has cancel or eliminated
 
Robin04 said:
If it hadn't gone, you couldn't have solved the equation because you have no information about the duration of the trip.What is the problem here? This equation is correct, you just have to solve it.You have to use the same equation: v=d/t. What is the distance and time if we look at the entire trip? As you don't have exact data about these, you have to express them somehow and hope that the unknown cancels :D.What is the difference between speed and velocity?

Letter A. So can you explain how did "t" got cancel or eliminated
Letter B. Can you lend me a hand of doing it?
Letter C. I'll deal with later because I need the answer of A and B to answer this
Letter D. Hmmm none?
 
Average speed is defined as the distance traveled in some particular time . Often , when you move , your speed is not constant , and tends to change . So we define average speed , to refer to the average distance traveled per unit time .

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Part D - Average velocity is net displacement ( in a certain time interval ) upon time interval considered . What is net diplacement when you leave SA , and then come back to SA ?

Part C , involves some calculation .

Hope this helps .
 
Qwertywerty said:
Part D - Average velocity is net displacement ( in a certain time interval ) upon time interval considered . What is net diplacement when you leave SA , and then come back to SA ?

Part C , involves some calculation .

Hope this helps .

Okayy I got letter D thankyou!
Sir problem is I can't do it algebraically especially A look the first post above, I don't know how t got cancel.
 
hiineko said:
Sir problem is I can't do it algebraically especially A look the first post above, I don't know how t got cancel
Ok , yes I had made a mistake in my earlier post .
Corrected - let time taken to reach H be t . First half , with speed v1 and second half with v2 .

So , for t/2 , car ( I assume ) travels a distance v1*t/2 , and the second t/2 , v2*t/2 .
So total distance traveled is equal to v1*t/2 + v2*t/2 = ( v1/2 + v2/2 )*t ←taking t out common .

Now , average speed = ( v1/2 + v2/2 )*t/t ←formula of average speed .
Can you now cancel t ?

I hope this is clear enough . If not , feel free to ask what is not .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
Ok , yes I had made a mistake in my earlier post .
Corrected - let time taken to reach H be t . First half , with speed v1 and second half with v2 .

So , for t/2 , car ( I assume ) travels a distance v1*t/2 , and the second t/2 , v2*t/2 .
So total distance traveled is equal to v1*t/2 + v2*t/2 = ( v1/2 + v2/2 )*t ←taking t out common .

Now , average speed = ( v1/2 + v2/2 )*t/t ←formula of average speed .
Can you now cancel t ?

I hope this is clear enough . If not , feel free to ask what is not .

Wow thankyou! That was so clear. Thankyou thankyou! I'll update you again if I have more questions. Good day sir
 
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