How Do You Calculate Charge in a Polarized Molecule?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the charge in a polarized molecule, specifically in the context of a physics problem related to electric fields and their application in cancer treatment. The original poster describes a polarized molecule with a charge separation of 5nm and a net force of zero, seeking guidance on how to determine the charge value.

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  • Participants discuss the effective charge separation in a polarized molecule and question how to derive the charge value (q) given the context of electric fields. Some express uncertainty about the implications of the professor's comments regarding the charge of a polarized molecule.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the implications of the information provided. Some participants have suggested using standard charge values while others are questioning the adequacy of this approach in light of the professor's remarks.

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Participants note that the problem involves a polarized molecule under tension in a uniform electric field, with specific reference to forces measured in piconewtons (pN). There is a mention of a potential typo regarding the description of charge separation.

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Okay, since this is just a very small portion of my homework question, I'm not going to use the format provided. I hope this doesn't get deleted!

At first, I thought i could just use q in the final answer since I don't know what q is, but what I have is:

A polarized molecule with electrons on the left and protons on the left. It has an effective charge separation of 5nm, and the net force on the molecule is 0.

How do I find the q (charge) for this problem? What do I need to know/how do I do it?

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks,
Andreana
 
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asc6429 said:
Okay, since this is just a very small portion of my homework question, I'm not going to use the format provided. I hope this doesn't get deleted!

At first, I thought i could just use q in the final answer since I don't know what q is, but what I have is:

A polarized molecule with electrons on the left and protons on the left. It has an effective charge separation of 5nm, and the net force on the molecule is 0.

How do I find the q (charge) for this problem? What do I need to know/how do I do it?

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks,
Andreana

Welcome to the PF. Could you please state the problem as it is given to you? There is not enough information in your post to understand what the problem is asking. Also, there is a left-left typo in your post; you probably meant left-right separation, correct?
 
Ok, here is the problem in its entirety (it's long): The article we read discusses the use of electric fields in treating cancer. Because cancer cells split apart fast than other cells, electric fields are able to apply that field to the cells and reduce the time it takes for them to split. That's the summary...
it can be found at this link http://www.rife.de/files/electric_fields_as_cancer_treatment.pdf

My question is stated:

The article discusses the use of alternating 1-2 V/cm electric fields as a cancer treatment. Consider a constant, uniform electric field of 2 V/cm inside a cell. Imagine a polarized molecule with effective charge separation 5nm. You should note that the net force on the molecule is 0, although the molecule is under tension. Find the tension (force) in Newtons that acts to stretch the molecule. Note that a volt, V, is Nm/C)​

The diagram shows the electrons on the left, and protons on the right (sorry if I messed that up earleir).

What I did so far:

for the LHS:
qE - (kq2/r2)

for RHS:
(kq2/r2) - qE

Total:
2*(qE - (kq2/r2)

and I have all information except q.

Any ideas?
 
Hmm. The article talks about forces up to 60pN, but I'm with you so far -- not sure how to come up with a value for q.
 
When I asked my professor, all he said was:

"A polarized molecule has an effective charge equal to an electron on one end and a proton on the other."

But he made it sound in class like it would not just be the normal value for q.
I AM LOST!
 
Hmm. Well, it's at least worth a try using just a single electron/proton charge value. If you use that, how close to the 60pN number do you get?
 

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