How Do You Calculate Initial Velocity for Vertical Motion?

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To calculate the initial velocity of a ball thrown vertically upward, the correct algebraic expression is v0 = (y - 0.5at^2)/t. In this scenario, with a total air time of 10 seconds and using gravity as a negative acceleration (-9.80 m/s²), the displacement is zero, leading to a calculation of v0 = -49 m/s if the wrong sign for acceleration is used. The confusion arises from the direction of the initial velocity, which should be positive since the ball is thrown upward. Correctly applying the equation with the right sign for gravity results in an initial velocity of 49 m/s. Understanding the signs in physics equations is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Problem:
A ball is thrown vertically upward, which is the positive direction. A little while later it returns to its point of release. The ball is in the air for a total time of 10 s. Note: Near the Earth's surface, g is approximately 9.80 m /s2.

(a1) What is the algebraic expression for the initial velocity v0 of the ball? Express your answer in terms of the ball's displacement y, its acceleration a in the vertical direction, and the elapsed time t.

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is this correct?:
Equation:
v0=(y-.5at^2)/t

v0=(0-490)/10
v0=(-490)/10
v0=-49
 
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"A ball is thrown vertically uwpard which is the positive direction"

And you get -49, which since its negative, is the down direction. Will a ball thrown towards the ground last 10 seconds in the air? Only if you throw it from the roof of a tall building.
 
You seem to have used the formula y=ut+0.5a(t^2), transposed it and obtained u=(y/t)-0.5at, so as long as you have your positive and negative directions right you've done it right, i think.
 
one thing to think about, if the positive direction is upwards, how could the ball travel up when it has a negative initial velocity?
 
The vertical 'throw' equation for the y-direction is y(t)\vec{j}=v_{0}t\vec{j}-0.5gt^2\vec{j}, which is equal to y(t) = v0*t - 0.5*g*t^2. Actually, I don't see any problems with the directions; the initial velocity v0 is 'positive', and gravitiy is acting in the 'negative' direction all the time. I don't see how you got a negative velocity from your equation. v0 equals 49 [m/s].
 
So my answer is correct? just instead of negative its positive?
i got negative because, the displacement is 0,
v0=(y-.5at^2)/t
v0=(0-.5(9.8)(10^2))/10
v0=(0-490)/10
v0=-490/10
v0=-49

However when i use the equation radou gives, i get the positive 49... so i think its just the equation i used... Thanks guys!
 
Joules23 said:
So my answer is correct? just instead of negative its positive?
i got negative because, the displacement is 0,
v0=(y-.5at^2)/t
v0=(0-.5(9.8)(10^2))/10
v0=(0-490)/10
v0=-490/10
v0=-49

However when i use the equation radou gives, i get the positive 49... so i think its just the equation i used... Thanks guys!
Your equation is correct, it's just that the acceleration due to gravity is a_y = -g = -9.80 m/s^2. (assuming the positive y-axis pointing upward). You used a=+g which is the problem.

Hope this helps
 
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