How Do You Calculate Kinetic Energy Changes in Rotational Motion?

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To calculate changes in kinetic energy during rotational motion, the relationship between angular velocity and radius must be understood, as they do not cancel out due to differing values. The correct formula for kinetic energy changes is the ratio of final to initial angular velocities, expressed as w(final)/w(initial). The discussion highlights the importance of torque and its relationship to distance, emphasizing that longer distances result in smaller forces. Conservation of angular momentum is also a critical concept to apply in these calculations. Understanding these principles will clarify the energy transformations involved in rotational motion.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



KE(final)/Ke(initial)


The Attempt at a Solution



1/2mv2/1/2mv2

v(final)2/v(initial)2

v= wr

r(initial)=? and r(final)=?

I originally thought the r's would cancel, but they don't because they're different. what to i do with them?
the corect answer is simply w(final)/w(initial), which is 3.3ish, but I want to understand how they got to that.
thanks.
 
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ok, so my understanding of this is kind of like a lever. You have a set amount of torque that is the same on both sides of the focal point. So Torque=Newtons x Distance. If one side is longer than the other (the professor with his arms out) the Newtons are smaller because the distance is great. while the shorter arm (professor with his arms in) has a shorter distance, meaning it will have greater force.
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so 1.5rad/s x D(initial)=5rad/s x D(final) ... that's what i got out of it
 
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Hi Noctix! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)
Noctix said:
I originally thought the r's would cancel, but they don't because they're different. what to i do with them?

ah, you haven't used conservation of https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=313" (rv, = r2ω) …

use that, and you should get the correct result :smile:

(and to account for the change in energy … ie, where did the energy come from or go to? … think about the https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=75" :wink:)
 
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