How Do You Calculate Power Consumption in AC Circuits?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating power consumption in AC circuits, specifically focusing on a domestic scenario with given voltage, current, and power factor. Participants explore various equations and concepts related to power calculations, including the implications of voltage angles and power factors.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem involving a 230V supply and a current of 20A at a power factor of 0.75, asking for the power consumed and costs associated with energy usage.
  • Another participant suggests that the voltage of 230V is likely the RMS value, which is standard for Europe.
  • There is a discussion about the formula for average power, with one participant questioning the need for Vrms and whether the angle affects the calculations.
  • One participant confirms that the power calculation can be done using P = 20 X 230 X 0.75, while another clarifies that the power factor remains constant even if the voltage angle is not zero.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between voltage angles and power factor, with one asserting that the power factor being constant means the angle does not affect the power calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the power factor in calculations, but there is some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of voltage angles and their impact on power calculations. No consensus is reached on the implications of these angles.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the interpretation of voltage values and the conditions under which the power factor is applied. The discussion does not resolve how varying angles might affect calculations beyond the stated power factor.

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Homework Statement



In a domestic house, the voltage on the supply is 230V at angle 0 degrees. A number of household appliances are connected to the single phase supply causing a current of 20A at a power factor of 0.75 lagging to flow from the supply

a) What power is being consumed by the loads.

b) If energy is charged at 13 cents /KWh, how much would it cost to run the house for 24 hours?

c) If an electric radiator(resistive load) drawing 10A were connected in parallel with other loads, what total current would be drawn from the supply?

Homework Equations



Do I use Average Power = (Vrms)^2 /R. Thing is I don't know what Vrms is?

There is also P = Irms X Vrms cos (phi). I think cos phi = power factor = 0.75?



The Attempt at a Solution



So is the answer just P = 20 X 230 X 0.75? Also what if the angle was greater than 0 degrees? Does that matter i,e do I have to use a different equation.

Thanks, this is really hard, so many equations to remember. ill stick to DC circuit analysis any time of the day!
 
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math_04 said:

Thing is I don't know what Vrms is?


No, but you can determine it. I assume your voltage of 230 volts represents the peak voltage of a sine wave for an alternating current. For a sine wave electric signal, Vrms = Vpeak/sqrt(2).
 
230V is probably already the rms.
Usually you quote Vrms for an AC voltage and 230V is the standard Vrms for Europe.
 
Ohh so my above answer to P was right then? The one i mentioned in solution.
 
Yes, if you mean "P = 20 X 230 X 0.75", you're correct.

I think cos phi = power factor = 0.75?
Also correct.
 
if the angle of the voltage not equal zero then
p=V(rms)*I(rms)*cos(phi)
power factor = cos(phi)=cos[theta(v)-theta(I)]
so if the voltage angle not equal zero it doesn't affect ur answer bec in power calculation u use the power factor which is constant so phi is also constant
 

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