How Do You Calculate Tension in Support Rods with Uneven Loads?

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To calculate the tension in support rods with uneven loads, the problem involves a sign weighing 360 N with an additional weight of 60 N hanging from it. The key is to apply the principle of torque, where the net torque must equal zero for the system to be in equilibrium. By calculating the individual torques from both the sign and the hanging weight, one can set up equations based on their distances from the pivot points of the support rods. Ultimately, solving these equations will yield the tensions in each support rod, taking into account the uniform distribution of the sign's weight and the additional load. Understanding these principles is crucial for accurately determining the tension in such scenarios.
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Hey...not sure how to solve this problem...i tried to do it like a normal one eg)2 painters standing on each end but have no idea how to account for the extra sign underneath the original...i can't use equilibrium cause i have 2 unknowns

anyways here is the question

A sign is 3.05 m long, and weighs 360 N. It is made from material which has uniform consistancy. A weight of 60 N hangs from the sign 1m from the end. Calculate the tension in each support rod. a=1.25m, b=0.80m, c=1m, d=1m.

a,b,and c are the lengths from left to right of the sign, and d is the length of the weight from the right side of the sign.

Ive been working on this question all day and cannot figure it out...help would be greatly appreciated

thanks

in advance
 
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Moment/Torque in static equilibrium

Moment counter clock-wise : Positive; Moment clock-wise : Negative
Moment at point b,
T_{c}(1-0.8)+T_{a}(1.25-0.8)+T_{d}(1.525+0.525-0.8)-360(1.525-0.8)-60(1.525+0.525-0.8)=0
Moment at point c,
T_{a}(1.25-1)+T_{d}(1.525+0.525-1)-T_{b}(1-0.8)-360(1.525-1)-60(2.05-1)=0
Moment at point a,
T_{d}(2.05-1.25)+T_{b}(1.25-0.8)-T_{c}(1.25-1)-360(1.525-1.25)-60(2.05-1.25)=0
Moment at point d,
360(0.525)-T_{b}(3.05-1-0.8)-T_{c}(3.05-1-1)-T_{a}(3.05-1-1.25)=0
I assume that there are 4 rods at point a,b,c and d.
 


Hi there,

It seems like you are facing a parallel forces problem, which can be challenging to solve. In order to solve this problem, you will need to use the concept of torque, which is the rotational equivalent of force. In this case, we have two forces acting on the sign - the weight of the sign itself and the weight hanging from it.

To solve this problem, you will need to find the net torque acting on the sign, which is equal to the sum of all the individual torques acting on it. The sign is in equilibrium, meaning that the net torque acting on it is equal to zero. This will help you solve for the tension in each support rod.

To find the individual torques, you will need to use the formula T = F x d, where T is the torque, F is the force, and d is the distance from the pivot point. In this case, the pivot point can be considered as the point where the two support rods meet.

First, calculate the torque of the weight hanging from the sign. Since this weight is 1m from the end, its torque will be 60 N x 1m = 60 Nm. Next, calculate the torque of the sign itself. Since the weight of the sign is acting at its center, its torque will be 360 N x 1.5m = 540 Nm (half of the sign's length).

Now, since the net torque is equal to zero, we can set up an equation: T1 + T2 = 0, where T1 is the torque of the weight and T2 is the torque of the sign. We can also use the fact that the sum of the forces acting on the sign must be equal to zero, since it is in equilibrium. This means that T1 + T2 = 0 can also be written as F1 + F2 = 0, where F1 is the force acting on the weight and F2 is the force acting on the sign.

Using this equation, we can solve for the tensions in the support rods. Since we know that the weight of the sign is 360 N and the weight hanging from it is 60 N, we can substitute these values for F1 and F2. This will give us the equation T1 + T2 = 360 + 60 = 420 Nm.

Now, we also know that the lengths of the support rods are a=1.
 
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