How Do You Calculate the Spring Constant with Kinetic Friction Involved?

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To calculate the spring constant (k) in the presence of kinetic friction, consider both the applied force and the frictional force acting against the spring's compression. The applied force of 22 N and the friction force, derived from the coefficient of kinetic friction and the normal force, must be included in the equation. The equation Fspring = -kx can be modified to account for these forces, leading to k = (Fapplied + friction force) / compression distance. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the forces at play when the block is held in a compressed state, despite the absence of a static friction coefficient. Ultimately, applying the correct approach to the forces involved will yield the accurate spring constant.
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A .18 kg block sits against a horizontal spring. A 22 N force is applied by a hand and the spring is compressed .18 m. There is a coefficient of kinetic friction between the table and block of .3. Once the spring is compressed, the force holds the block in place without motion. What is k (spring constant)?

Would k = 22 N / .18 m or would k = (22N + friction force) / .18 m? When it's in the compressed state, tendency of motion is toward equilibrium, so do you calculate it with the force applied and friction both acting against the motion of the spring or just the force applied since it's still? No static friction coefficient was given, so I'm confused.

The problem before had us do a free-body diagram for the object in the compressed state, and I thought that both the force applied and friction would be acting against it, even though static friction wasn't given, so I did

Fspring = -kx = (Fapplied + uFn) and got 125 N/m

any ideas if this is correct?
 
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As static friction was not given, draw the free body diagram when the block moves. The block moves on the effect of a constant force (22 N), and the friction acts again the motion, together with the spring force. The block will accelerate first, then decelerate and stops at the end, after 0.18 m.

Write the equation of motion and solve it, or apply the work-energy theorem.

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