How do you find the length of the curve defined by r(t) between two points?

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Homework Statement



Consider the path r(t) = <10t,5t2,5ln(t) defined for t >0. Find the length of the curve between (10,5,0) and (20,20,5ln(2))

Homework Equations



L= ∫ab |r'(t)|dt

The Attempt at a Solution


r'(t) = <10, 10t, 5/t>

t values are 1 and 2 based on the x values for the points listed

√(102 + (10t)2 + (5/t)2)
√(100 + 100t2 + 25/t2)
√(25) ⋅ √(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)
5√(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)This is where I am getting stuck. Is there an additional step that is missing?
 
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Turbodog66 said:

Homework Statement



Consider the path r(t) = <10t,5t2,5ln(t) defined for t >0. Find the length of the curve between (10,5,0) and (20,20,5ln(2))

Homework Equations



L= ∫ab |r'(t)|dt

The Attempt at a Solution


r'(t) = <10, 10t, 5/t>

t values are 1 and 2 based on the x values for the points listed

√(102 + (10t)2 + (5/t)2)
√(100 + 100t2 + 25/t2)
√(25) ⋅ √(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)
5√(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)This is where I am getting stuck. Is there an additional step that is missing?
Yes. You need to figure out the initial ##t_1## final value ##t_2## of ##t##, then do the integral
$$\text{Length} = \int_{t_1}^{t_2} 5 \sqrt{ \displaystyle 4 + 4 t^2 + \frac{1}{t^2}} \, dt $$
 
Turbodog66 said:

Homework Statement



Consider the path r(t) = <10t,5t2,5ln(t) defined for t >0. Find the length of the curve between (10,5,0) and (20,20,5ln(2))

Homework Equations



L= ∫ab |r'(t)|dt

The Attempt at a Solution


r'(t) = <10, 10t, 5/t>

t values are 1 and 2 based on the x values for the points listed

√(102 + (10t)2 + (5/t)2)
√(100 + 100t2 + 25/t2)
√(25) ⋅ √(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)
5√(4 + 4t2 + 1/t2)This is where I am getting stuck. Is there an additional step that is missing?

Hint: If you re-arrange the expression under the square root, you may recognize it as a perfect square.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Yes. You need to figure out the initial ##t_1## final value ##t_2## of ##t##, then do the integral
$$\text{Length} = \int_{t_1}^{t_2} 5 \sqrt{ \displaystyle 4 + 4 t^2 + \frac{1}{t^2}} \, dt $$

Based on the two points listed, I found that t1 = 1 and t2=2. So next I would then substitute in the t values and solve? I attempted that previously, but I did not get the correct answer.

$$\text{Length} = \int_{1}^{2} 5 \sqrt{ \displaystyle 4 + 4 (2^2 -1^2) + \frac{1}{2^2-1^2}} \, dt $$
 
Turbodog66 said:
Based on the two points listed, I found that t1 = 1 and t2=2. So next I would then substitute in the t values and solve? I attempted that previously, but I did not get the correct answer.

$$\text{Length} = \int_{1}^{2} 5 \sqrt{ \displaystyle 4 + 4 (2^2 -1^2) + \frac{1}{2^2-1^2}} \, dt $$

If ##f(t) = 5 \sqrt{4 + 4t^2 + 1/t^2}##, then ##\int_{t_1}^{t_2} f(t) \, dt = F(t_2) - F(t_1)##, where ##F(t) = \int f(t) \, dt## is the indefinite integral of ##f(t)##. This is not anything like what you wrote!
 
There are two things I don't understand about this problem. First, when finding the nth root of a number, there should in theory be n solutions. However, the formula produces n+1 roots. Here is how. The first root is simply ##\left(r\right)^{\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)}##. Then you multiply this first root by n additional expressions given by the formula, as you go through k=0,1,...n-1. So you end up with n+1 roots, which cannot be correct. Let me illustrate what I mean. For this...
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