How Do You Manipulate Lenses for Optimal Image Placement?

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The discussion revolves around manipulating lenses to achieve optimal image placement, focusing on two specific questions regarding object placement and lens movement in relation to image focus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between object distance and image distance, questioning whether a real image is implied. There is discussion about the implications of placing an object at the focal length and the resulting image location. Some participants reference the thin lens equation and its relevance to the questions posed.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the questions, with some providing insights into the thin lens equation and its application. There is a mix of understanding regarding the implications of object placement and lens adjustments, with no clear consensus yet on the answers.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying the questions, particularly regarding the nature of the images (real vs. virtual) and the specific conditions of the lens setup.

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Homework Statement



1.Where would you place an object to obtain an image as far away from the lens as possible?

2. Suppose you have an image focused on a slide screen. You moved the image towards the lens. Which way would you move the lens to keep the image in focus? Explain

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For 1 I am thinking far away from the image as possible would be at the focal length but do they mean a real image? That would be between the focal length and twice the focal length

For 2 I am thinking you would move the lens away to keep the image in focus.
 
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jvdamdshdt said:

Homework Statement



1.Where would you place an object to obtain an image as far away from the lens as possible?

2. Suppose you have an image focused on a slide screen. You moved the image towards the lens. Which way would you move the lens to keep the image in focus? Explain

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None

The Attempt at a Solution



For 1 I am thinking far away from the image as possible would be at the focal length but do they mean a real image? That would be between the focal length and twice the focal length

For 2 I am thinking you would move the lens away to keep the image in focus.

Are you familiar with the thin lens equation? It can be used to answer both of these questions.

For question 1: imagine you had parallel rays coming in "from infinity." They would be bent by the lens and all converge at the focal point on the other side. Now, reverse time (or equivalently, just reverse the direction of propagation). So, the origin of the rays becomes the destination, and vice versa. So, rays would diverge from the focal point, hit the lens, and be bent to be all parallel on the other side. So where would the image be in this situation? Is it possible to get farther away from the lens than that? :wink:

For question 2: I repeat: do you know the thin lens equation?
 
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I do know the lens equation. 1/do + 1/di = 1/f . In question one the object at the focal length will produce an image at infinity. For question two I don't know if I am remotely close to getting the answer.
 
jvdamdshdt said:
I do know the lens equation. 1/do + 1/di = 1/f . In question one the object at the focal length will produce an image at infinity. For question two I don't know if I am remotely close to getting the answer.

For question 2, you are reducing di and keeping f the same (since the lens curvature doesn't change).
 

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