How do you test the convergence of i^n (imaginary number) or (-1)^n?

[Agnostic]

I was thinking alternating series test, but can't that only be used for testing for convergence, not for testing divergence?

 

[Hurkyl]

How about the divergence test?

 

[LeonhardEuler]

You'll have to be more specific. The convergence of what? The sequence of terms, a_n=i^n, the series, \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}i^n, or some sequence or series that just has i^n as one term? I can tell you right now, the first two diverge.

 

[Agnostic]

How about the divergence test?

The divergence test doesn't work for indeterminant forms.

 

[Agnostic]

You'll have to be more specific. The convergence of what? The sequence of terms, a_n=i^n, the series, \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}i^n, or some sequence or series that just has i^n as one term? I can tell you right now, the first two diverge.

I must prove that \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}i^n diverges.

Or rather, I must prove wheter or not its convergent of divergent. I know its divergent, but I still have to prove it.

 

[LeonhardEuler]

The divergence test doesn't work for indeterminant forms.

i^n is not an indeterminant form.

 

[Hurkyl]

The divergence test doesn't work for indeterminant forms.

There isn't an indeterminant form involved.

 

[LeonhardEuler]

I must prove that \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}i^n diverges.

Or rather, I must prove wheter or not its convergent of divergent. I know its divergent, but I still have to prove it.

Oh, that's simple. Use the divergence test as Hurkyl suggested. Do the terms in the series approach zero as n approaches infinty?

 

[Agnostic]

The limit of i^n as n goes to infinity doesn't have a solution does it?

 

[LeonhardEuler]

The limit of i^n as n goes to infinity doesn't have a solution does it?

Right, exactly!

 

[Agnostic]

Oh, that's simple. Use the divergence test as Hurkyl suggested. Do the terms in the series approach zero as n approaches infinty?

No, they alternate ... i,-1,-i,1,i,-1,...

 

[Agnostic]

Right, exactly!

But that is not the same as saying indeterminant form?

 

[LeonhardEuler]

No, they alternate ... i,-1,-i,1,i,-1,...

So the limit doesn't exist. Then can it equal zero?

 

[LeonhardEuler]

But that is not the same as saying indeterminant form?

No, an indeterminant form is something like \frac{0}{0}, or \frac{\infty}{\infty}, or 1^{\infty}. A non-existant limit is just a non-existant limit.

 

[Hurkyl]

But that is not the same as saying indeterminant form?

An indeterminate form is a "limit form" for which we don't have enough information to say what the limit really is, or if it exists. For example, \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} x/x has the indeterminate form 0/0.

 

[Agnostic]

Its usually always silly mistakes :D
Thanks a lot guys..