How Does a Cockroach Affect Angular Velocity When Moving on a Disk?

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The discussion focuses on the effect of a cockroach moving on a rotating disk on the system's angular velocity. Participants emphasize the importance of conservation of angular momentum, stating that the initial and final moments of inertia must be considered. The cockroach's movement from the rim to halfway towards the center alters the distribution of mass, impacting angular velocity. While specific numerical values are not provided, the use of variables and the principle of angular momentum conservation are suggested as key methods for solving the problem. The thread concludes with a reminder that complete solutions are not provided, encouraging a tutorial approach instead.
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a cockroach of mass m lies on the rim of a uniform disk of mass 10m that can rotate freely about its center like a merry go round. Initially the cockroach and disk rotate together with an angular velocity of \omega_0. Then the cockroach walks halfway to the center of the disk.

What is the change in \Delta \omega[/tex] in the angular velocity of the system?

I have no clue where to start...and no there are no numbers given.

Can some one help me/give me a hint?
 
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You know that angular velocity = linear velocity v/r, the radius of the disk...
The cockroach's initial angular velocity would have been some value like v/10 (Because the radius is 10m)
I'm going to guess its angular velocity was the same when it was halfway through, in which case its angular velocity would be v/5...
The difference would be v/5 - v/10 = 2v/10 - v/10 = v/10
So the angular velocity would have gotten two times faster. (Assuming what I'm doing is right... which I'm unsure of)
 
but the radius is not 10...
mass of cockroach = m
mass of disk = 10m (10 times as much as cockroach)
 
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When no numbers are given, assign variables and see if they cancel. You should apply the conservation of angular momentum principle

I_1\omega_1 = I_2\omega_2

The intertial moment is due to the disk and cockaroach. The disk's moment remains the same in 1 and 2. The moment of inertia of a point mass is I = mr^2.
 
so...how can I calculate everything if I don't have a radius?
 
As I've said, assign variables. Let the radius be anything R. Now continue to solve.
 
check the attached file

<< file with complete solution deleted by berkeman >>
 
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yellow_river said:
check the attached file

<< file with complete solution deleted by berkeman >>

Thank you for trying to help, yellow_river. But we do not provide complete solutions to Homework Help questions here on the PF. Please be tutorial in your help.
 
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