How does a current source work in Norton's Therom

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The discussion revolves around the workings of a current source in the context of Norton's Theorem, particularly focusing on the transformation from a voltage source to a current source and the implications of internal resistance in these scenarios. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical implications of these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that an ideal current source has infinite resistance and provides a constant current to a load, questioning how this aligns with Norton's Theorem when transforming a voltage source.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of calculating the open circuit voltage and short circuit current to understand the equivalence between the voltage and current source configurations.
  • A participant suggests examining the behavior of a voltage source with progressively smaller internal resistance to gain insight into the implications of Norton's Theorem.
  • Concerns are raised about the idea that connecting zero resistance across a current source would result in no current passing through the load, prompting further clarification on this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of internal resistance in the context of Norton's Theorem, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanics of current flow in these scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the significance of internal resistance and its effect on current flow, but the exact conditions under which these transformations hold true are not fully resolved.

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Hi.i know that a ideal current source has infinite resistance and it supply's constant current to aload connected across it. The current source doesn't have the infinite resistance in series to it but in pparalle. All is well until I think of this Norton's Therom. When we transform a voltage source to current source we connect the same thevinin resistance in parallel to current source (now it's name is Norton's resistance). So for an ideal voltage source the internal residence is zero and all the voltage across it is dropped across the load only. But when we transform it we connect zero resistance across a current source (as per Norton) no current passes through the load as the current source is shorted?? How is it possible that Norton's Therom it's true this case? Correct me if I am wrong.http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Theory/images/norton_th.png
 
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Hi dushyanth. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

Don't overlook the need to set VTh = R × IN

▻ What is the open circuit voltage across AB in each of the above?
▻ What is the short circuit current when you place a short across AB?

Your answers in each part should be identical.
http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/37333/0363e9373324851.jpg
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi dushyanth. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

Don't overlook the need to set VTh = R × IN

▻ What is the open circuit voltage across AB in each of the above?
▻ What is the short circuit current when you place a short across AB?

Your answers in each part should be identical.
http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/37333/0363e9373324851.jpg
Can you please elaborate?
 
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dushyanth said:
Can you please elaborate?
On what specifically?
 
dushyanth said:
So for an ideal voltage source the internal residence is zero and all the voltage across it is dropped across the load only. But when we transform it we connect zero resistance across a current source (as per Norton) no current passes through the load as the current source is shorted?? How is it possible that Norton's Therom it's true this case? Correct me if I am wrong.
I seem to have missed the significance of what you were asking in your OP.

Rather than look at the extreme case, it is more enlightening to consider what happens as the internal resistance gets progressively smaller. Take, for example, a source having V = 10 volts and r = 10 ohms, and determine the Norton equivalent of this voltage source. Now, recalculate with smaller values of r, say, 1 ohm, 0.1 ohms, 0.0001 ohms, and 0.00000001 ohms.

Comment on the trend you observe as r approaches 0.
 

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