How Does Angled Force Affect Maximum Box Weight on a Frictional Surface?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum weight of a box being pushed at a 15° angle with a force of 650 N on a horizontal surface, where the coefficient of static friction is 0.7. The initial approach involved using the horizontal force component and the friction equation, but the vertical component of the applied force was also considered, as it affects the normal force and thus the friction. The correct formulation integrates both the weight of the box and the vertical force component to accurately determine the frictional force. The final equation reflects this understanding, leading to a proper calculation of the box's weight. The participants confirm that factoring in the vertical force component is essential for an accurate solution.
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Homework Statement



You push down on a box at an angle 15° below the horizontal with a force of 650 N. If the box is on a horizontal surface and the coefficient of static friction is 0.7, what is the heaviest box you will be able to move?

Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



So I've solved this problem using Fnet which was 650cos15 for the horizontal force and then subtracted (\mu_s)(9.80)(m) The ma part goes to zero since it's not accelerating.

Therefore I get 650cos15 = (\mu)(9.80)(m) and then solve for m.

I thought that was it. But now that I thinking about it more, there is a vertical component for the force. I'd imagine that extra force would make the box seem to weigh more, thereby increasing friction, making the box weigh less.

Do I factor that vertical force in? If so, how?
 
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Ah! Maybe like this?

650cos15 = [((\mu)(9.80)(m))+(650sin15)

All I did here was add in the vertical force component to the friction.

Yeah...that isn't right since my box ends up weighing 2kg.
 
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Your above equation is correct.Though you will multiply the coefficient of friction to both the weight as well as 650sin15
 
Nice.

So something like this?


650cos15 = [((\mu)(9.80)(m))+((\mu)(650sin15))]
 
Yeah,that's correct.
 
Thanks for the help!:approve:
 
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