How does electrolysis affect salts in solution?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of electrolysis on salts in a hydroponic nutrient solution, specifically concerning the potential changes to essential nutrients like nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), and potassium (K) during the process. Participants explore the implications of electrolysis on nutrient integrity and plant health.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Shane, questions whether the buildup on emitter screens during electrolysis is due to salts from the nutrient solution and how this might affect the solution's nutrient content.
  • Shane expresses concern about the potential modification or dilution of nutrients like N, P, and K due to electrolysis, seeking insights on whether these changes could be harmful to plants.
  • Another participant suggests that there may be no significant change to the nutrients, particularly nitrogen, which has multiple oxidation states that remain nutritionally equivalent.
  • The same participant asserts that phosphorus remains in the form of phosphate, implying stability in its nutrient form.
  • Shane seeks clarification on whether the conclusions drawn indicate minimal degradation of nutrients into harmful substances due to electrolysis.
  • A later reply from Shane expresses a hopeful stance regarding the potential effects of electrolysis on nutrient integrity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of electrolysis on nutrient degradation, with some suggesting minimal effects while others remain uncertain about the potential for harmful changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide detailed definitions or assumptions regarding the specific chemical processes involved in electrolysis or the nature of the nutrient solution, leaving some aspects unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in hydroponics, electrolysis applications in nutrient solutions, and the chemistry of plant nutrients may find this discussion relevant.

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Not sure if this is the best sub category to ask...

I've successfully raised Dissolved Oxygen (DO) in a hydroponic nutrient solution via electrolysis using this device here...

http://www.o2grow.com/

My question is, assuming starting with pure RO or distilled water, that has only had nutrient solution later added to it, any crud that builds up on the emitter screens over time must be coming from the salts of the nutrient solution, correct?

Question then is, how significantly might I be detrimentally affecting my nutrient solution, subjecting it to electrolysis?

IOW's, how are any of the compounds in the nutrient solution, like N,P,K, etc., possibly being changed, modified, or diluted?

BTW, I'm usually running about 40 gallons of nutrient solution at between 300 and 1,000 PPM liquid fertilizer added and at a pH of around 5.8. The O2 device is on for maybe 10 minutes every hour, 4 hours day in total, 24/7.

If I'm taking some nutrients out of play, that's not a big deal, I can just run a little higher PPM concentrations, but if I'm modifying any via the electrolysis that go on to the plant roots to possibly do harm, that's what I'm trying to sort out here.

Could any of these nutrients be getting changed or modified into something unintended via the electrolysis, is the big question.

Thanks for any insights.

- Shane
 
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shane2 said:
compounds in the nutrient solution, like N,P,K,
K? "No change." N? How many oxidation states ... let me think a minute ... at least half a dozen ... all more or less equivalently nutritious ... ? "No change." P? All phosphate.
 
Bystander, so, is your conclusion that electrolysis would likely have minimal effect degrading the nutrients into anything harmful?

- Shane
 
I'll cross my fingers and nod.
 

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