How Does Moving a Metal Rod in a Magnetic Field Induce Current?

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The problem involves a metal rod moving in a magnetic field, with various calculations related to induced current, force, energy dissipation, and work done. The context is rooted in electromagnetism, specifically focusing on concepts such as magnetic flux, induced electromotive force (emf), and the forces acting on the rod due to friction and magnetic interactions.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between induced current and the rate of change of magnetic flux, referencing relevant equations such as magnetic flux and motional emf. There are attempts to clarify the calculations for voltage and current, as well as the forces involved in maintaining constant speed against friction.

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Participants are actively exploring different aspects of the problem, with some providing guidance on relevant laws and equations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the forces acting on the rod and the calculations needed to find the required force and energy dissipation. No explicit consensus has been reached, but several productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the multiple components involved, including friction, induced current, and the geometry of the setup. There are references to specific values and conditions given in the problem statement, which may influence the calculations and understanding of the situation.

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Homework Statement



A metal rod of mass 0.22 kg lies across two parallel conducting rails that are a distance of 0.52 m apart on a tabletop, as shown in the top view above. A 3.0 W resistor is connected across the left ends of the rails. The rod and rails have negligible resistance but significant friction with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.20. There is a magnetic field of 0.80 T perpendicular to the plane of the tabletop. A string pulls the metal rod to the right with a constant speed of 1.8 m/s.

(a) Calculate the magnitude of the current induced in the loop formed by the rod, the rails, and the resistor.
(b) Calculate the magnitude of the force required to pull the rod to the right with constant speed.
(c) Calculate the energy dissipated in the resistor in 2.0 s.
(d) Calculate the work done by the string pulling the rod in 2.0 s.
(e) Compare your answers to parts (c) and (d). Provide a physical explanation for why they are equal or unequal.

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Homework Equations



I =V/R

The Attempt at a Solution


A) I = V/R?
I'm a bit confused... there seems to be an overload of information on this problem. I would appreciate some direction.
 
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Won't the induced current be proportional to the rate of the change of flux in a loop of wire? Consider then the rate of change of the area.
 


LowlyPion said:
Won't the induced current be proportional to the rate of the change of flux in a loop of wire? Consider then the rate of change of the area.

Oh gosh... I do recall doing something like this. I'll try to find my notes...

Ok, I found two things that are potentially relevant. I have magnetic flux (BAcos\theta) and mortional emf (Blv).

Are any of these remotely correct?
 


I am not an expert but personally, I would look into Ampere's law, Faraday's law and biot-savart law (not sure on the latter).
 


science.girl said:
Oh gosh... I do recall doing something like this. I'll try to find my notes...

Ok, I found two things that are potentially relevant. I have magnetic flux (BAcos\theta) and mortional emf (Blv).

Are any of these remotely correct?

Yeah, well what is the rate of change of the area of the loop? A = w*Δx

Won't the voltage be something like

V = Δ(B*A)/Δt

With B constant and ΔA/Δt = w*Δx/Δt = w*v

then won't

Voltage = B*w*v

The resistance is fixed at 3Ω.
 


LowlyPion said:
Yeah, well what is the rate of change of the area of the loop? A = w*Δx

Won't the voltage be something like

V = Δ(B*A)/Δt

With B constant and ΔA/Δt = w*Δx/Δt = w*v

then won't

Voltage = B*w*v

The resistance is fixed at 3Ω.

Then apply I = V/R? With R = 3 and V = Bwv? Or am i interpreting this wrong?
 


Oh, got it! Would someone mind helping me with (b), then?

(b) Calculate the magnitude of the force required to pull the rod to the right with constant speed.

Doesn't this just deal with the velocity, (1.8 m/s) and the coefficient of kinetic friction (0.20)?
Edit: Rather, is it Fs = FB + Ff?
Edit2: But how would you find the force related to these?
 
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Well, I would suggest that you of course have the frictional component, but then you also have the energy that goes into the resistor which is I2R.
 


Consider what is happening: the rod is moving, which changes the magnetic flux across the circuit, which induces a voltage. This voltage causes a current. The magnetic field then imposes a force on this current that opposes the motion of the rod. Calculate this force, calculate the force of friction, add the two together and you'll get the total force needed to pull the rod.
 
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ideasrule said:
Consider what is happening: the rod is moving, which changes the magnetic flux across the circuit, which induces a voltage. This voltage causes a current. The magnetic field then imposes a force on this current that opposes the motion of the rod. Calculate this force, calculate the force of friction, add the two together and you'll get the total force needed to pull the rod.

Would the magnitude of the magnetic force be: F = qvBsin\theta?

And I know one equation that would apply for the magnitude of the force of kinetic friction: fk = \mukn
But this equation doesn't seem to give me enough information to solve for the force of kinetic friction... Any help?
 
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science.girl said:
Would the magnitude of the magnetic force be: F = qvBsin\theta?

And I know one equation that would apply for the magnitude of the force of kinetic friction: fk = \mukn
But this equation doesn't seem to give me enough information to solve for the force of kinetic friction... Any help?

Almost. Consider the form of the magnetic force equation that matches the geometry of the situation you have in the problem.

F = I*B*w*sinθ

where w is the length of the rod across the tracks. (Sinθ of course is 1 for this set up.)

So multiplying F*v = B*v*w*I = V*I

Force times velocity is power. Power is the Voltage found before times current which can also be expressed as I2R
 
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Got it! Thank you for your help!
 
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science.girl said:
Would the magnitude of the magnetic force be: F = qvBsin\theta?

FYI, something to look for in the future: these introductory magnetism problems generally involve either current-carrying wires, or a charge q moving at velocity v. Since this problem involves current in a wire, you'd want to use an equation that contains I rather than one with q and v.
 
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Redbelly98 said:
FYI, something to look for in the future: these introductory magnetism problems generally involve either current-carrying wires, or a charge q moving at velocity v. Since this problem involves current in a wire, you'd want to use an equation that contains I rather than one with q and v.

Thanks for the advice, Redbelly98! I appreciate it. :smile:
 

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