How does MWI deal with the destruction of interference?

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The discussion centers on the implications of the Many-Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics regarding the destruction of interference patterns in the double slit experiment when a detector is placed at the slits. Participants explore how the presence of a measuring device affects the wave function and the resulting interference, considering both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how MWI accounts for the loss of interference when a detector is used, suggesting that the wave function must evolve differently due to the presence of the detector.
  • Others propose that in MWI, the wave function branches when the particle reaches the detector, leading to different states for the particle and detector based on whether the detector fires or not.
  • It is noted that the state of the entire system must be consistent with the detector's result in each branch, which contributes to the disappearance of interference.
  • Some participants clarify that in MWI, the particle does not have an independent wave function; rather, the entire system's wave function encompasses all interactions.
  • There is a contention regarding the terminology of "branching" versus "splitting" of universes, with some asserting that the universe exists in a superposition of all possible states rather than actually splitting into new universes.
  • One participant expresses confusion about whether measurement leads to the creation of new universes, which is clarified as a misunderstanding of the language used to describe MWI.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement on the terminology and conceptual understanding of branching versus splitting in MWI, with no consensus reached on the implications of these terms for the interpretation of quantum mechanics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the clarity of language used to describe MWI and its implications, as well as the dependence on interpretations of wave function evolution and measurement outcomes.

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How does MWI deal with the destruction of interference in the double slit experiment when a detector is placed at the slits? Since the wave function never collapses, and the universe doesn't actually split in MWI, how does the interference go away? Does the measuring device at the slits reshape the wave function in a way that makes it impossible to interfere with itself?
 
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Nickyv2423 said:
How does MWI deal with the destruction of interference in the double slit experiment when a detector is placed at the slits?

In the MWI, the wave function branches when the particle traversing the experiment reaches the detector. In one branch, the detector fires, and in the other, it doesn't. The state of the particle, the detector, and everything else in the universe in each branch is the appropriate one for the detector result (fire/not fire) for that branch.

Nickyv2423 said:
how does the interference go away?

It goes away in each branch because the state of everything in each branch has to be consistent with the detector result for that branch.

Nickyv2423 said:
Does the measuring device at the slits reshape the wave function in a way that makes it impossible to interfere with itself?

In the MWI, the particle by itself doesn't have a wave function. Only the entire system does. The presence of the detector at the slits changes the way the wave function of the entire system evolves, yes, because it changes the interactions that are present.
 
PeterDonis said:
In the MWI, the wave function branches when the particle traversing the experiment reaches the detector. In one branch, the detector fires, and in the other, it doesn't. The state of the particle, the detector, and everything else in the universe in each branch is the appropriate one for the detector result (fire/not fire) for that branch.
It goes away in each branch because the state of everything in each branch has to be consistent with the detector result for that branch.
In the MWI, the particle by itself doesn't have a wave function. Only the entire system does. The presence of the detector at the slits changes the way the wave function of the entire system evolves, yes, because it changes the interactions that are present.
But in MWI, the universe doesn't actually branch/split off into new universes, that's a misconception. The universe already exists in a superposition, where all possible universes already exist.
 
Nickyv2423 said:
in MWI, the universe doesn't actually branch/split off into new universes, that's a misconception

If that terminology bothers you, just say the wave function of the overall system branches. The physics is the same either way.

Nickyv2423 said:
The universe already exists in a superposition, where all possible universes already exist.

If you're going to use this terminology, the set of "all possible universes" changes with time: it is different after the particle has passed the detectors at the slits because it now includes branches for the different possible measurement results at the detectors. So you could say the set of "all possible universes" is what branches. You're still just describing the same physics in different words.
 
PeterDonis said:
If that terminology bothers you, just say the wave function of the overall system branches. The physics is the same either way.
If you're going to use this terminology, the set of "all possible universes" changes with time: it is different after the particle has passed the detectors at the slits because it now includes branches for the different possible measurement results at the detectors. So you could say the set of "all possible universes" is what branches. You're still just describing the same physics in different words.
Oh, I think I miss understood you then. Are you saying that when a measurement is made the universe splits and creates new universes?
 
Nickyv2423 said:
Are you saying that when a measurement is made the universe splits and creates new universes?

No. I'm saying that the various descriptions you have suggested are not different possible ways things could be; they're just different ordinary language descriptions of the same physics, the same way things are (according to the MWI).
 

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