How Does Rapid Compression Affect Gas Pressure and Temperature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of rapid compression on gas pressure and temperature, specifically focusing on an adiabatic process involving air in a cylinder. Participants explore the implications of compressing gas quickly without heat dissipation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario involving 1 litre of air at 1 atm pressure and 20ºC being compressed to 0.2 litres, questioning the resulting pressure and temperature.
  • Another participant asserts that the pressure will exceed 5 atm due to the increase in temperature from the rapid compression, which adds energy to the gas.
  • A method is suggested for calculating the final pressure using the relationship PVγ = constant, with γ=7/5 for air, and then deriving temperature from the ideal gas law.
  • A later reply identifies the process as an adiabatic process, providing a link for further reference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the exact pressure and temperature after compression, with some agreeing on the principles of adiabatic processes while others focus on the calculations involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific values of pressure and temperature.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions include treating air as an ideal gas and the absence of heat dissipation during the compression. The discussion does not resolve the implications of these assumptions on the calculations.

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HI all

I am glad to join your community.

Just thinking on this and I do not encounter a solution:

We have gas (1 litre of air, for example) in a cylinder at 1 atm pressure and 20ºC.

Then we compress this gas using a piston very quickly (there is no time enough to dissipate any heat out) down to 0.2 litre.

I assume that now we get a pressurized gas at 5 atm, and this gas temperature has also increased a lot.

My question is:

Is this new pressure higher than those 5 atm due to the fact that the higher temperature is a gas the larger volume it occupies?

Considering air as an ideal gas and there has not been any heat dissipated, what would be this pressure and temperature after compressing it down to 1/5 of its initial volumen?

Thanks.
 
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beginner49 said:
My question is:

Is this new pressure higher than those 5 atm due to the fact that the higher temperature is a gas the larger volume it occupies?
Pressure is higher than 5 atm due to the temperature being higher. The temperature is higher because compressing the gas quickly adds energy to it.
Considering air as an ideal gas and there has not been any heat dissipated, what would be this pressure and temperature after compressing it down to 1/5 of its initial volumen?

Thanks.
This can be worked out. Instead of PV=constant, as you have for a constant-temperature process, we have
PV γ = constant​
with γ=7/5 for air. That will give you the final pressure, and then you can get the temperature from the ideal gas law knowing P and V.
 
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Clear enough, Redbelly98

Thank you very much
 

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