How Does the Area of a Square Change with Its Diagonal?

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The discussion revolves around determining the rate of change of the area of a square with respect to the length of its diagonal when the side length is given as 5 meters. The problem involves concepts from geometry and calculus, specifically relating to the area of a square and its diagonal.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the area of a square and its diagonal, using the Pythagorean theorem to derive expressions for both. There is discussion on how to express the area in terms of the diagonal and the implications of that for the rate of change.

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Participants are actively clarifying the problem requirements and discussing the correct interpretation of the question. There is some back-and-forth regarding the specific values and expressions needed to answer the question about the rate of change.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the distinction between the area and the rate of change, with participants questioning the assumptions made in their calculations and interpretations of the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



What is the rate of change of an area of a square with respect to the length of its diagonal (r) when the square has a side length of 5 meters?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Area of a square = s^2
and if Area of a square = s^2 then it would = (r^2)/2

Pythagorean Theorem to find the diagonal of the square:

r^2 = s^2 + s^2
r^2= 2s^2
r=sqrt2s^2
r=sqrt2 * s

and then I did this:

(dA)/(dr) and since we need A in terms of r (i hope that's what the question is asking)

then ((d)/(dr))((r^2)/(2)) = (2r)/2 = r

so then the final answer that I got is A = (5^2)/2 = 12.5
 
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choboplayer said:

Homework Statement



What is the rate of change of an area of a square with respect to the length of its diagonal (r) when the square has a side length of 5 meters?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Area of a square = s^2
and if Area of a square = s^2 then it would = (r^2)/2

Pythagorean Theorem to find the diagonal of the square:

r^2 = s^2 + s^2
r^2= 2s^2
r=sqrt2s^2
r=sqrt2 * s

and then I did this:

(dA)/(dr) and since we need A in terms of r (i hope that's what the question is asking)

then ((d)/(dr))((r^2)/(2)) = (2r)/2 = r

so then the final answer that I got is A = (5^2)/2 = 12.5
They're not asking for A. Besides, when s = 5 meters, A = 25 m2.

They're asking for (dA)/(dr) when s = 5 m. i.e. when r = 5/√(2) m.

You essentially answered it earlier.
 
SammyS said:
They're not asking for A. Besides, when s = 5 meters, A = 25 m2.

They're asking for (dA)/(dr) when s = 5 m. i.e. when r = 5/√(2) m.

You essentially answered it earlier.

so would that be the answer then? r = 5/√(2) m?
 
choboplayer said:
so would that be the answer then? r = 5/√(2) m?

The answer to the question:
"What is the rate of change of an area of a square with respect to the length of its diagonal (r) when the square has a side length of 5 meters?"​
is 5/√(2) m, but that's not r .
 

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