How Does Velocity Change in a Car Crash Impact?

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a 1700kg car crashing into a wall at 49 km/h, with subsequent calculations of velocity during the impact. The initial velocity converts to 13.6 m/s, but the calculated average speed during the first frame of impact appears to be 89 m/s, which is deemed impossible. Participants express confusion over potential typos in the textbook "Physics For Scientists and Engineers" by Ohanian, particularly regarding the time measurement used in the problem. There is a suggestion to clarify the problem by sharing diagrams or additional context from the textbook. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of analyzing velocity changes during a car crash and the importance of accurate data in physics problems.
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A problem in the text shows a 1700kg car hitting a wall
and crushing the front of the car. The car is moving at
49 km/hour constant velocity just before the impact. After
the impact a camera frame shows that the car has moved
or crushed about 2/9 of 2 meters in 5 x 10^-3 seconds, but
is not fully crushed yet. There are more frames showing the
rest of the crush until the car stops. Here's my question:

Original velocity before contact with the wall is ..

49 km/hour, or 49 x 10^3 / 3.6 x 10^3 = 13.6 meters/sec

the velocity I calculate in that first frame is ..

(2/9 x 2 meters) / (5 x 10^3) sec = .089 x 10^3 meters/sec

OR ! 89 METERS/ SECOND ! Well ?

This makes no sense to me, but D = R x T , and that's given in the text ?
 
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If it went 2/9*2 meters in .005 seconds, that is an average speed of 89 m/s.
And impossible, as you say. Any chance of posting the diagram? You could take a photo with a camera. Maybe if you name the text and page someone who has one could scan it.
 
Delphi51 said:
If it went 2/9*2 meters in .005 seconds, that is an average speed of 89 m/s.
And impossible, as you say. Any chance of posting the diagram? You could take a photo with a camera. Maybe if you name the text and page someone who has one could scan it.

The book is Physics For Scientists and Engineers vol 1 by Ohanian. And the text example with photos is in ch 11 on page 340. I don't know if it is a typo or not because my experience with Ohanian is if you work at it long enough, he is always right. Then, at the end of the chapter .. problem #3, he asks for me to plot the F x t and calc the average velocity for each frame. I can only believe that I'm not reading the text problem right .. or .. there's a typo, and the time is wrong .. maybe 5 x 10^2 ? ... dropping Vi from 13.2 to 8.9m/s in that interval.
 
In my experience a mistake can be very easily made at any point in a question. You might be best off to forget about all analysis and just describe the diagram as an observant artist would.
 
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