How fast does the student need to drive to save the melting ice cream?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the speed a student needs to drive to prevent ice cream from melting during a 5-minute trip. The context includes known values such as a distance of 7.5 miles and a speed limit of 40 mph.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of equations and the implications of rounding in calculations. There is exploration of different speed values and their correctness based on the problem's constraints.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on rounding and suggested trying different values. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the correct setup of the equations, particularly in relation to the time interval for the trip.

Contextual Notes

Participants are examining the assumptions made in the problem setup, particularly regarding the speed of travel and the relationship between time and distance in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Now, suppose the student wishes to bring back some ice cream from the restaurant for her friends at school, but since it is such a hot day, the ice cream will melt away in the car in only 5 minutes. How fast will the student have to drive back to get the ice cream to her friends before it completely melts?

Knowns:
C=40mph(for these problems)
Time=5 minutes
Distance=7.5 miles



Homework Equations


Dt= change in time
p= proper interval
Dt-p= d/v

Dt-p=Dt/lambda or dt/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Dt-p=7.5m/40mph=.1875hr

.1875=(5minutes/60minutes per hour)/sqrt(1-v^2/40^2)

rearranging it becomes:

v=sqrt( -((.083hr/.1875hr)^2-1)*40^2)

answer I get is 35.8mph

The online homework tells me I am wrong either by sig figs or by bad rounding.
 
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Well then, don't round until you get to the final answer, and try out different numbers of sig figs. Have you tried 36 mph?
 
I have tried 36, 35.8,35.83

Edit:
I went back and put 37 and it said I was correct, the correct answer was actually 36.6. I haven't the faintest clue as to how it is 36.6 mph.
 
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aft_lizard01 said:
I have tried 36, 35.8,35.83

Edit:
I went back and put 37 and it said I was correct, the correct answer was actually 36.6. I haven't the faintest clue as to how it is 36.6 mph.

Yes, the correct answer is 36.55 mph. The problem is not with the number crunching but with the set-up of the equations. The correct time interval for fetching the ice-cream in the Earth's frame is 7.5/v not 7.5/40. The student does not travel at the speed of "light."
 

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