How Is Average Power Calculated in a Transformer Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average power delivered to a load in a transformer circuit. Participants explore various approaches to solving the problem, including the application of relevant equations and circuit analysis techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a circuit analysis involving the calculation of average power (P) delivered to the load (ZL) and questions the relationship between turns ratio (a) and voltage transformation.
  • Another participant critiques the initial calculations, suggesting that the impedance (Z) used in the power calculation is incorrect and emphasizes the need to use the correct magnitude of Z.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of looking at the impedance of the load from the transformer input and proposes using KVL to derive equations for the input and output circuits.
  • Further calculations are presented, including the determination of current (I2) and its magnitude, as well as the power calculation based on the load impedance.
  • Another participant corrects the interpretation of the turns ratio (a), clarifying that it should be I1/I2 and not the other way around, which affects the magnitude of I2 and subsequently the power calculation.

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Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating power and the relationships between various circuit parameters. There is no consensus on a single method or solution, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

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Some calculations depend on assumptions about the circuit configuration and the definitions of the parameters involved, such as the turns ratio and impedance values. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of circuit relationships.

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Homework Statement



Please see the image attached. We are asked to find the average power (P) delivered to ZL.

2. Relevant Questions

(My observation of the circuit) The circuit on the left is as follows: V + I1*(5 + jwL) = 0.
For the circuit on the right: V = I2*(Z + jωL)

Is a= N1/N2 or N2/N1?

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Given that there is no source in the left circuit, we use the RE values from the right circuit:
Code:
[B]I[/B][SUB]2(max)[/SUB] = 2A    [B]I[/B][SUB]2(rms)[/SUB] = 2/2 = 1A       [B]P[/B] = 1[SUP]2[/SUP] *60 = 60 W


(b) Since we are given a V1(rms)= 100∠60° V we can calculate V2 by ( a = V1/V2 ).
Code:
a = N1/N2 = 0.5       V[SUB]2[/SUB]= 100/0.5 = 200V[SUB](rms)[/SUB] 
[B]P[/B] = V[SUP]2[/SUP]/Z    →   200[SUP]2[/SUP]/60 = 666.67 W

(c)
Code:
V[SUB]S(max)[/SUB] = 120∠0°   By finding V[SUB]1[/SUB], we are able to find V[SUB]2[/SUB].    V[SUB]S[/SUB]= I[SUB]1[/SUB]*5 + jωL
I thought this was the correct way of solving this since, jωL = V/I but we are not given the frequency ω. So obviously this is not the correct approach.

Can someone please critique and advise on everything. I do have a couple other questions regarding this circuit, but I will wait until the problem is completed. Thank you very much any help!
 

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dwn said:

(a) Given that there is no source in the left circuit, we use the RE values from the right circuit:
Code:
[B]I[/B][SUB]2(max)[/SUB] = 2A    [B]I[/B][SUB]2(rms)[/SUB] = 2/2 = 1A       [B]P[/B] = 1[SUP]2[/SUP] *60 = 60 W


OK

(b) Since we are given a V1(rms)= 100∠60° V we can calculate V2 by ( a = V1/V2 ).
Code:
a = N1/N2 = 0.5       V[SUB]2[/SUB]= 100/0.5 = 200V[SUB](rms)[/SUB] 
[B]P[/B] = V[SUP]2[/SUP]/Z    →   200[SUP]2[/SUP]/60 = 666.67 W

No. Your V is right but your Z is not. Use the correct |Z| to get the current, then do I^2 R where R = 60 ohms.
(c)

What is the impedance of the load Z looking at the transformer input? Call that Z'. You have an ideal transformer. What is Z' as a function of Z and a? BTW a = N2/N1 = 2.

Then you can put R=5 ohms in series with the transformer input to compute I1, and you know I2/I1 = N1/N2. Then use |I2| to compute load power as in (b).

EDIT:
It may be simpler to write KVL for the inut and output circuits, realizing V2 = aV1 and I2=I1/a. So you get 2 equations in 2 unknowns: in I2 and V2. Then again P = |I2|^2 R, R = 60.
 
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Part B:
Code:
Z[SUB]L[/SUB]= 60+j80        I[SUB]2[/SUB]= 200/(60+j80)  = 1.2 - j1.6   
Magnitude of I[SUB]2[/SUB]= 2A
P = 2[SUP]2[/SUP]*60 = 240 W

Part C:
Code:
a[SUP]2[/SUP]= Z[SUB]s[/SUB]/Z[SUB]p[/SUB]   Z[SUB]p[/SUB] = 15+j20

I[SUB]1[/SUB]= 120/(20+j20) = 3+j3       Magnitude of I[SUB]1[/SUB] = 4.24A 
I[SUB]2[/SUB]/I[SUB]1[/SUB] = a        2(4.24) = 8.48A = I[SUB]2[/SUB]
[B]P[/B]=8.48[SUP]2[/SUP]*60 = 4314.62W

How does it look now?

Thank you a lot for the guidance. I forgot about the Zp : Zs relationship.
 
Getting there.

For (c) you first need to reduce the 120V by sqrt(2).
That reduces your |I1|.
Then, it's a = I1/I2, not the other way around. Remember, a = N2/N1 = 2 here.
That reduces |I2| by a lot.
Then P = |I2|^2 * 60.
 

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