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The discussion focuses on how torque is calculated in equilibrium problems, specifically using the equation 600(200) - R_{AH}(600) = 0. The key point is that the sum of torques must equal zero for equilibrium, with the torque from the 600 N force at a distance of 200 mm from point A being positive. The horizontal force component at point C, denoted as H_C, generates a negative torque due to its counterclockwise effect. There is confusion regarding the notation used for the horizontal force at A, R_{AH}, which some believe may have been incorrectly labeled. Ultimately, the calculation of torque was clarified to be taken with respect to point C rather than A.
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I've seen someone's solution in which they did the following:
$$600(200)-R_{AH} (600) = 0$$

How did they arrive at that conclusion by taking the moment about $A$?
 

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Rido12 said:
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I've seen someone's solution in which they did the following:
$$600(200)-R_{AH} (600) = 0$$

How did they arrive at that conclusion by taking the moment about $A$?

Hey Rido! (Wave)

The third equilibrium condition is that the sum of the torques must be zero.

The torque of the vertical 600 N force with respect to A is
$$+600\text{ N} \cdot \frac{400\text{ mm}}{2} = +600\text{ N} \cdot 200\text{ mm}\tag 1$$
Apparently clockwise has been chosen to be positive, so this torque is positive.

In A and C there will be vertical force components and horizontal force components.
The vertical force components have a lever-arm of zero with respect to A, so the corresponding torques are zero.
The horizontal force component at A also has a lever-arm of zero.
So that leaves only the horizontal force component at C.

Let's use the symbol $H_C$ for the horizontal force component at C, which is pointing to the right.
Then the corresponding torque is:
$$-H_C \cdot (300 \text{ mm} + 300 \text{ mm}) = -H_C \cdot 600\text{ mm} \tag 2$$
This is negative, since it would make the structure turn counter clockwise.

So the total sum of torques is (1) and (2) together:
$${}_+^\curvearrowright\sum T_A = +600\text{ N} \cdot 200\text{ mm} - H_C \cdot 600\text{ mm}$$

Btw, I don't know why the symbol $R_{AH}$ was chosen for $H_C$.
 
Thanks ILS! (Wave)

http://skule.ca/courses/exams/custom/20099/CIV102_2009__1329360871.pdf

The reason why I posted it was because the above link confused me. (See #2). I guess they used the wrong letter? (Presumably my 80yo+ prof)
 
Rido12 said:
Thanks ILS! (Wave)

http://skule.ca/courses/exams/custom/20099/CIV102_2009__1329360871.pdf

The reason why I posted it was because the above link confused me. (See #2). I guess they used the wrong letter? (Presumably my 80yo+ prof)

From your notes I can see that $R_{AH}$ is the force at $A$ that is $H$orizontal.
I'm guessing that he picked the letter $R$ for $R$eactive force.

Either way, it means the torque was calculated with respect to $C$ and not with respect to $A$. :eek:
Moreover, the direction of $R_{AH}$ has been picked to point to the left.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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