How long can I run my computer using an Inverter?

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The discussion revolves around estimating how long a computer can be powered using a 12V car battery and a 500W inverter. Participants explore various factors affecting power consumption, including the computer's actual power draw, inverter efficiency, and battery capacity. The conversation includes considerations for both short-term and long-term power needs, as well as alternative solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the duration a 200W computer can run on an 85Ah battery using a 500W inverter.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for clarity on the actual power consumption of the computer rather than its rated power supply capacity.
  • A suggestion is made to provide additional information about the battery's energy capacity and the efficiencies of the inverter and power supply to facilitate calculations.
  • One participant estimates that if the computer draws about 100W while idle, it would require approximately 4,320,000 Joules for 12 hours.
  • A crude estimate is provided, assuming a 10 kg lead-acid battery with a specific energy of around 30 Wh/kg, leading to a rough calculation of 1.7 hours of operation based on average power draw.
  • Another participant calculates that an 85Ah battery could last about 8 hours at a current draw of 10.7 amps, suggesting that three batteries would be needed for 24 hours of operation.
  • Participants discuss the potential for using a laptop or solid-state drives to improve efficiency and reduce power consumption.
  • One participant mentions plans to set up a small solar system with solar panels to supplement power needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of the initial information provided and the assumptions made regarding power consumption and battery capacity. There is no consensus on the exact duration the computer can run, as various estimates and conditions are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the estimates depend on several factors, including the actual power draw of the computer, inverter and battery efficiencies, and the discharge characteristics of the battery. The discussion highlights the importance of measuring actual current and power requirements for more accurate calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in powering devices using batteries, those considering solar power solutions, or anyone looking to understand the implications of inverter and battery specifications on power consumption.

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Good Evening,

I have a 12V Car battery which supplies 85Amps. I have a 500W Inverter with a peak of 1000W. One of my computers which I want to run has a 200W power Supply. I would like to know how long I can power this for 12 hours and 24 hours. If the battery cannot power it for that long, then how many batteries would I need to power it for the time wanted? I don't mind creating a battery bank.

Thanks.
 
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The stats you have provided are not adequate to answer the question you have asked. It is irrelevant how much power your computer power supply CAN provide (200W) but rather how much power DOES it supply.

Also your sentence "I would like to know how long I can power this for 12 hours and 24 hours." does not make any sense. 12 hours is 12 hours and 24 hours is 24 hours.
 
Forgive me for the inadequate information provided. If you can tell me what you need from me in order for the calculations to be done, then I'll try and give you that information, however, I do not know anything else other than what I've said since I just got given the battery.
 
You could do a crude estimate if you knew the energy capacity of your battery, the minimum efficiencies of your inverter and computer power supply and how much power your computer will draw on average.
 
A crude estimate would be satisfactory. The specs for my inverter is here. The computer itself has a 200W power supply, but sits there idle. The computer is a Dell Optiplex 210L. So let's say it utilizes... 100 watts. That would mean that it would be 0.10kWh. 0.10kWh X 12 hours would be 4,320,000 Joules.
 
Let's say you have a 10 kg lead-acid car battery (I'm guessing here since you didn't specify). If it's of decent quality and is in good condition then a specfic energy of around 30 Wh/kg is probably a good bet, so you get an energy capacity of 300 Wh.

Let's assume your inverter and computer power supply are 80% and 70% efficient in supplying AC and DC power, respectively, so you'd need 100 W/(0.8*0.7) ≈ 179 W from your battery, on average, which means you can run your computer for 300 Wh/179 W ≈ 1.7 h.

And again, this is a very crude estimate that's only supposed to give you a general idea of what you could expect. There's plenty of other things you need to take into account, like the discharge characteristics of your battery, for instance.
 
That battery is possibly capable of 85 amp-hours as this is the usual way of describing battery capacity.

So, suppose the inverter needs 150 watts to operate the computer and cover its own losses.

150 watts from a 14 volt battery would mean the current is 150 watts / 14 volts or 10.7 amps.

An 85 amp hour battery would last about 8 hours at a current of 10.7 amps. (85AH / 10.7A = 7.94 hours)

So, in this situation, you would need 3 batteries to last 24 hours. However, the actual current and battery capacity and inverter current would have to be measured to get a more accurate estimate.

Don't forget the monitor power, though. This is not powered by the computer so it would need additional power.

You could also consider using a laptop computer or replacing the hard drive in your computer with a solid state one.
 
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vk6kro said:
You could also consider using a laptop computer or replacing the hard drive in your computer with a solid state one.

That would be very good advice. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to design a laptop to use its battery energy efficiently and you could benefit from that. Also, you could do a lot better than using an inverter to feed the laptop PSU. A DC - DC converter could feed the laptop directly and avoid the losses associated with a mains inverter and PSU. They are available on line : http://smartparts.co.uk/catalog/car_dc_adapters/.
If you have the money, then a solid state drive would be good, of course.
 
Thanks for the help! The computer is only a server and is idle nearly all the time. It has 2 HDD's in there. Since I can barely afford anything, It'll me a while to get batteries. I'm setting up a small solar system in my room with at least 1-2 20W Solar panels on the roof.
 

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