How Many Ways to Deal Two Distinct Pairs in a Four-Card Hand?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the number of ways to deal two distinct pairs from a four-card hand drawn from a standard 52-card deck. Participants are exploring combinatorial counting methods related to card ranks and suits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss a method involving combinations to select ranks and cards, specifically using the expression 13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2. There is a focus on the potential for double-counting in the selection process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out issues with the original counting method, particularly regarding double-counting of pairs. Others have suggested that the approach should involve selecting two distinct ranks first, which may lead to a more accurate calculation. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of standard combinatorial rules and are questioning the assumptions made in the original counting method. There is an emphasis on ensuring distinctness in the ranks chosen for pairs.

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Homework Statement


4 cards are dealt from a 52-card deck. How many hands contain 2 distinct pairs?

Homework Equations


This is an expression I come up with 13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is how I approach it.
From the 13 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

From the remaining 12 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

Now, I do the following calculations with combinations.

13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2 = 5616.

My neighbor told me that it's wrong. He didn't explain why it was wrong. I cannot find any mistakes.
Please explain what I have done wrong. Thank you very much.
 
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Your method results in double-counting. Using ##^{13}C_{1} \times ^{12}C_{1}## counts the combination (x,y) twice - once as (x,y) and another time as (y,x), when these hands should considered as the same.
 
davedave said:

Homework Statement


4 cards are dealt from a 52-card deck. How many hands contain 2 distinct pairs?

Homework Equations


This is an expression I come up with 13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is how I approach it.
From the 13 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

From the remaining 12 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

Now, I do the following calculations with combinations.

13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2 = 5616.

My neighbor told me that it's wrong. He didn't explain why it was wrong. I cannot find any mistakes.
Please explain what I have done wrong. Thank you very much.

Assume that one hand is AA, JJ if the first rank is A and the second rank is J. A can't be counted in the second rank as you stated it.
Based on your counting, another way would be JJ,AA if the first rank is J. The A rank is still available for the second pair generating a double counting.
 
davedave said:

Homework Statement


4 cards are dealt from a 52-card deck. How many hands contain 2 distinct pairs?

Homework Equations


This is an expression I come up with 13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is how I approach it.
From the 13 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

From the remaining 12 ranks, I choose 1.
In this rank, I choose 2 cards from 4.

Now, I do the following calculations with combinations.

13C1x4C2x12C1x4C2 = 5616.

My neighbor told me that it's wrong. He didn't explain why it was wrong. I cannot find any mistakes.
Please explain what I have done wrong. Thank you very much.

You need to choose two distinct ranks from the 13 ranks; then for each chosen rank you need to pick 2 of the 4 cards in that rank.
 

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