How many years lasts a Bachelor of Sciences degree in the US

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The discussion revolves around the duration of a Bachelor of Science degree in the United States, particularly in the context of physics, and how it compares to similar degrees in Argentina. Participants explore the implications of these durations for pursuing further education, such as Ph.D. programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a Bachelor of Science in physics typically lasts about 4 years in the US, while others express uncertainty about this duration, with one participant guessing it could be 5 years.
  • There is mention of the structure of undergraduate programs in Argentina, where students often work on a thesis or research project, which some participants compare to research opportunities available to US undergraduates.
  • One participant notes that a friend from Argentina found her BSc to be nearly equivalent to both a BS and MS in the US, but still had to complete additional master's classes.
  • There is a discussion about the typical duration of Ph.D. programs in the US, with some participants stating it usually takes 5-7 years, while one participant mistakenly thought it was 3 years.
  • Clarification is provided regarding J. D. Jackson's textbook, which is commonly used in graduate-level courses, suggesting that the BSc in Argentina may cover more advanced material compared to a typical US B.S.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of taking 7 years to complete a Ph.D. in experimental high-energy particle physics, indicating variability in completion times based on individual circumstances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the duration of a Bachelor of Science degree in the US, with no clear consensus reached. There is also variability in opinions regarding the length of Ph.D. programs, contributing to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the equivalency of degrees and the structure of programs in different countries remain unverified, and the discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and interpretations.

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After having read a big part of "Who wants to be a Physicist" I was quite surprised that it is possible to apply for a Ph.D. with "only" a Bs.Sc.
It is the same here in Argentina so now I'm guessing that Argentina took US example.
I'm currently finishing the first year of University and the "Bachelor of Physics" lasts 5 years minimum. (The last year and a half consists of a specialization by doing research to help a teacher or something like that. It can lasts of course more than a year.)
If I'm not wrong it is not written in "Who wants to be a Physicist" how many years does the Bs.Sc. lasts in the US. I had a feeling of like it lasts 5 years which really surprises me. I thought it was 3 years. But I'm not sure though. Can you tell me?
 
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A bachelor's of science in physics (like most undergraduate degrees) should last only about 4 years in the US. Typically Ph.D. programs last 5-7 years, with an intermediate master's degree possibly awarded in the middle based on coursework or intermediate research work.

P.S. Argentina is lovely. I spent time in Bariloche and Buenos Aires... and would love to visit again!
 
In Argentina an other Latin countries you work for an undergraduate thesis or "tesis de licenciatura" but in USA & other regions there are programs to allow undergraduate students to join research projects so they can add the experience to their resume.
 
Artus said:
In Argentina an other Latin countries you work for an undergraduate thesis or "tesis de licenciatura" but in USA & other regions there are programs to allow undergraduate students to join research projects so they can add the experience to their resume.
You are probably right but I think that the thesis consists of helping a professor into his research. So I'd call that a research project and as it is specialized I guess it counts for the curriculum. But I'm not 100% about this. I only saw only 2 people that were going to get their Bs.Sc. diploma. There are approximately only 4 people by year (on maybe 50-70 people that start the first year) that reach this point, so it very uncommon to meet one of them and knowing they are about to finish their undergraduate studies. I may ask to the one I recognize.
Maybe you even know more than me about what the final undergraduate thesis really is. If you know well the subject, I'd be glad to learn about it.

Thank you very much physics girl phd.
 
I have a friend from Argentina getting her PhD here in the US. Her degree BSc from Argentina was almost the equivalent of a BS and MS (masters) in the US, but she still had to complete the masters classes (pretty easy for her, since they had used Jackson in her 'undergrad'). It will definitely contribute to your application, since many grad schools expect you to have some research experience. You apply for the PhD program with a BSc, but you usually earn a masters degree along the way, either through coursework or coursework and a thesis.
 
eri said:
I have a friend from Argentina getting her PhD here in the US. Her degree BSc from Argentina was almost the equivalent of a BS and MS (masters) in the US, but she still had to complete the masters classes (pretty easy for her, since they had used Jackson in her 'undergrad'). It will definitely contribute to your application, since many grad schools expect you to have some research experience. You apply for the PhD program with a BSc, but you usually earn a masters degree along the way, either through coursework or coursework and a thesis.
Hi eri,
Do you know in which city did she study? I study in Córdoba.
What is Jackson (a book?). And a coursework? Sorry for my ignorance.
Glad to hear that the Bs.Sc. here is almost equivalent to the one in the US.
P.S. Argentina is lovely. I spent time in Bariloche and Buenos Aires... and would love to visit again!
Yeah it is beautiful. If you come another time do not miss to visit Iguazu's falls : they are absolutely amazing.
 
I thought a PhD in the US was 3 years.
 
A PhD in the US takes as long as it takes. 5-7 is typical.
 
fluidistic said:
What is Jackson (a book?).

J. D. Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" is a very commonly-used textbook for graduate-level Electricity & Magnetism courses. I've never heard of it being used in an undergraduate E&M course in the USA, which suggests that the BSc in Argentina goes to a higher level than a typical B.S. in the USA.
 
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jtbell said:
J. D. Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" is a very commonly-used textbook for graduate-level Electricity & Magnetism courses. I've never heard of it being used in an undergraduate E&M course in the USA, which suggests that the BSc in Argentina goes to a higher level than a typical B.S. in the USA.

When I was at MIT it was used for 8.07; undergraduate E&M.
 
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Thank you all for your answers. :redface:
 
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Is there a typical age at which people enter a PhD programme in the US and an age at which they finish?
 
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In physics, people usually enter a Ph.D. program after finishing their bachelor's degree, i.e. at about age 22. The length of time varies depending on your field, how good (or lucky) you are, etc. I was in experimental high-energy particle physics and took seven years to finish. I probably could have done it in six if I had been more efficient, but so long as my research group had stuff for me to do (programming etc.) they weren't in a hurry to push me out.
 

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