How Quickly Does a Leaf Heat Up Under Sunlight?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature rise of a leaf under sunlight, given specific parameters such as power per unit area, energy absorption rate, specific heat, leaf area, and mass. The correct approach involves using the equation Q=mcΔT, where the rate of thermal energy change is equated to power. Participants express confusion over the calculations, with some arriving at different temperature rise rates, leading to debates about the validity of the answers. Clarifications are made regarding the correct application of power per unit area and the role of leaf area in the calculations. The consensus indicates that the temperature rise of 7.88 degrees Celsius per second is accurate, despite some skepticism about its feasibility.
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If the total power per unit area from the Sun incident on a horizontal leaf is 9.00x10^2 W/m2, and we assume that 70.0% of this energy goes into heating the leaf, what would be the rate of temperature rise of the leaf? The specific heat of the leaf is 2.80 kJ/(kg°C), the leaf area is 7.00 x10^−3 m2, and its mass is 0.200 g.



I don't know what equation to use.
I tried using

Power = kA (Temp/d)
but did not get the right answer.

The right answer is 7.88 degree celsius per sec.
 
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Are you sure that's the right answer? It seems pretty big (or fast).
 
hage567 said:
Are you sure that's the right answer? It seems pretty big (or fast).


yup, it says that is the correct answer
 
Well, I would use Q=mc(deltaT).

The rate of change of thermal energy is the power.

I don't quite get the same answer as the book though, I get 7.88x10^-4 oC/s. (which is much more reasonable, in my opinion)
 
hage567 said:
Well, I would use Q=mc(deltaT).

The rate of change of thermal energy is the power.

I don't quite get the same answer as the book though, I get 7.88x10^-4 oC/s. (which is much more reasonable, in my opinion)


If I were to use the equation
Q=mc(deltaT).

Q = (9.00 x 10^2 W/m2) * 0.7 (would this be right b/c it's 70% of energy?)
m= 0.200 g
c= 2.80 kJ/(kg C)
(delta T) = what we are looking for

Where woul the leaf area fit into the picture?
 
can anyone help please?
 
Technically, since your working with power your equation should be;

\frac{dQ}{dt} = mc\Delta T

Now, you've done everything correctly up to now. So, if the sun emits 9.00 x 10^2 watts per square meter; much power falls on a leaf with an area of 7.00 x10^−3 square meters?
 
Hootenanny said:
Technically, since your working with power your equation should be;

\frac{dQ}{dt} = mc\Delta T

Now, you've done everything correctly up to now. So, if the sun emits 9.00 x 10^2 watts per square meter; much power falls on a leaf with an area of 7.00 x10^−3 square meters?

sorry i don't understand the hints.
i did 7.00 x10^−3 / 9.00 x 10^2 watts for dQ/dt
and plugged in m and c and solved for delta T.
still not getting the right answer
 
Your very close here;
kbyws37 said:
7.00 x10^−3 / 9.00 x 10^2 watts for dQ/dt
But why are you dividing the area by the power per unit area when you want power? Let's have a look at the units;

area = m^2

\text{power per unit area}=\frac{W}{m^2}

\text{power}= \frac{dQ}{dt}=W
 
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